Any sort of control assistance?

[dresoccer4]

Does the CH-47F in DCS have any electronic control assistance to help with axis control? For example most of the modern helos do, but the UH-1H does not. I'm finding it very hard to control so was wondering if there were any electronic assistance with this upgraded package modeled in DCS. 

Edited October 6, 2024 by dresoccer4

[Tholozor]

Ensure you have the System Select Knob turned on on the AFCS panel between the CDUs. Eventually we'll also get additional stability and control features that you can read more about here: 

 

Edited October 6, 2024 by Tholozor

[dresoccer4]

29 minutes ago, Tholozor said:

Ensure you have the System Select Knob turned on on the AFCS panel between the CDUs. Eventually we'll also get additional stability and control features that you can read more about here: 

 

 

great, thanks. yeah can't wait for the additional stability control, I can't keep her straight and level for the life of me...and I'd consier myself a near pro in the Huey!

[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, dresoccer4 said:

great, thanks. yeah can't wait for the additional stability control, I can't keep her straight and level for the life of me...and I'd consier myself a near pro in the Huey!

Do you have pedals? There's something odd when you trim. You have FFB, right? 

[dresoccer4]

11 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Do you have pedals? There's something odd when you trim. You have FFB, right? 

no pedals (joystick twist)., yes to ffb

[dresoccer4]

2 hours ago, Tholozor said:

Ensure you have the System Select Knob turned on on the AFCS panel between the CDUs. 

so this was definitely off  i didn't see it included in the startup tutorial i was using. is this modeled in the Early Access? does it actually stabilize flight at the moment?

[MAXsenna]

no pedals (joystick twist)., yes to ffb

Right, I seemed to remember you have the MS FFB2, an axis in any case! Then you might "have a problem". For some reason they force "centre position" trimming on the pedals in the default trim mode. Turn on Controls Indicator, and you can see for yourself. It's really wonky for me, but I can handle it.

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[dresoccer4]

11 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Right, I seemed to remember you have the MS FFB2, an axis in any case! Then you might "have a problem". For some reason they force "centre position" trimming on the pedals in the default trim mode. Turn on Controls Indicator, and you can see for yourself. It's really wonky for me, but I can handle it.

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i've got it (mostly) figured out now. still a couple od behaviors (like the nose dipping down during acceleration), but I can do most of the flying decently well now. will probabty just need a lot more practice. 

[MAXsenna]

i've got it (mostly) figured out now. still a couple od behaviors (like the nose dipping down during acceleration), but I can do most of the flying decently well now. will probabty just need a lot more practice. 

Yeah, I need to trim a lot!

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[Sprool]

Dont forget the Bob button for cruising!

 

[MAXsenna]

Dont forget the Bob button for cruising!
 

Sure. Don't really need it. It's easy enough to give him control, but sometimes strange things happen. And I haven't completely figured out the best way to retake the controls yet.

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[Sprool]

Handover to and from Bob is a bit glitchy at the moment, if you do it at speed I get a big change in pitch

[Rogue Trooper]

On 10/6/2024 at 4:49 PM, dresoccer4 said:

i've got it (mostly) figured out now. still a couple od behaviors (like the nose dipping down during acceleration), but I can do most of the flying decently well now. will probabty just need a lot more practice. 

Yes this is normal, It's that pesky DASH thingy.

Push and hold the cyclic forward to accelerate and as the chopper gains speed the airframe will start to nose down and loose altitude, slowly pull back the Cyclic to zero the drop in height (if you increase thrust instead, you will simply accelerate into the ground faster), don't worry the aircraft will keep accelerating. At about 100 to 120 knots the cyclic should be around centre or Neutral on the cyclic gauge. With the current flight model I have the cyclic back -2 inches at 140 to 150 knots.

The hook is designed to have the cyclic centred and the airframe level during forward flight.... weird.

[dresoccer4]

47 minutes ago, Rogue Trooper said:

Yes this is normal, It's that pesky DASH thingy.

Push and hold the cyclic forward to accelerate and as the chopper gains speed the airframe will start to nose down and loose altitude, slowly pull back the Cyclic to zero the drop in height (if you increase thrust instead, you will simply accelerate into the ground faster), don't worry the aircraft will keep accelerating. At about 100 to 120 knots the cyclic should be around centre or Neutral on the cyclic gauge. With the current flight model I have the cyclic back -2 inches at 140 to 150 knots.

The hook is designed to have the cyclic centred and the airframe level during forward flight.... weird.

thanks, this is great info. really nice to hear that what I'm experiencing is in fact correct and how to balance it out. definitely a much different experience than the Huey