Tunstamj Posted October 14, 2024 Posted October 14, 2024 Hello there, This update, myself and several others have noticed a strange clipping issue when zoomed out with the TADS and spanning it to the right. This manifests as the physical model of the TADS clipping/obscuring your view as CPG, and seems to only happen during multicrew. I've confirmed this happens for multiple users when in the CPG seat, with the PLT not seeing any clipping issues - PSA for an example clip. https://imgur.com/a/ZOZhYst
ED Team Lord Vader Posted October 15, 2024 ED Team Posted October 15, 2024 Hello @Tunstamj We are aware of this item and have already reported this. Esquadra 701 - DCS Portugal - Discord
Tunstamj Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 Hi @Lord Vader This was marked as fixed last patch, but sadly the issue still persists.
Floyd1212 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Tunstamj said: This was marked as fixed last patch, but sadly the issue still persists. I don't remember seeing it in the patch notes as fixed. Are you sure? There was another bug fixed related to the TADS, but I don't think it was this one.
ED Team Lord Vader Posted January 22 ED Team Posted January 22 @Tunstamj The fix that was applied in DCS 2.9.11.4686 from December 24th 2024 was regarding the TADS clipping through the model when turning it all the way to the left side. Please supply a track demonstrating what's happening in that video for our analysis. We cannot reproduce this issue. Esquadra 701 - DCS Portugal - Discord
Tunstamj Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 (edited) Hi @Lord Vader, Thank you for more of an explanation on that fix; the patch notes for 24th Dec 2024 simply stated "Fixed: TADS camera clips through model". From the sounds of it, that issue was for clipping of the TADS when looking externally, rather than this issue..? The issue I had described (and on the 15th Oct you had mentioned you were aware of), is in multicrew (does not appear when solo CPG) where the CPG spans the TADS to the right, and the physical model of the TADS appears to lag behind the slew of the TEDAC camera. This doesn't happen when turning left, and is also not visible for the PLT. Given it's likely a network sync bug, I'm not sure I'd trust a track file to accurately recreate the problem. The example clip still demonstrates this perfectly, but the link appears to have expired and so I've refreshed it here: https://imgur.com/a/4UI0mdB - Hopefully you can clearly see that when spanning right, the view through the TEDAC screen is occluded by the right side of the TADS model; this has been recreated by multiple other users on different machines. Steps to recreate: Go CPG in a multicrew Apache Slew the TADS quickly to the right and observe clipping Slew back left and no clipping occurs If I had to guess, it seems the slew angle of the TEDAC screen and the slew angle of the external TADS model are decoupled; I would imagine the slew angle of the external TADS model is determined from the PLT seat, and when CPG in multicrew there's a small amount of delay in sending a slew command, so you end up "bumping into" the inside of your own TADS model, and the screen gets covered. Please let me know if there's anything else you would need from me; this issue has appeared several months ago and has been a pain when flying multicrew ever since. Edited January 23 by Tunstamj Typo at top
ED Team Lord Vader Posted January 24 ED Team Posted January 24 @Tunstamj First of all, we may have had some misunderstanding if the issues sound similar, sure, but this is why we ask for tracks. Simply reading a description is sometimes enough but if we cannot reproduced the issue, then we have no way to understand what's happening. A video is also not sufficient most of the times, especially with visual errors in MP. Thank you @Freiwilderer. Please do share that track with us. 1 Esquadra 701 - DCS Portugal - Discord
admiki Posted January 24 Posted January 24 One thing that Tunstamj did not mention is that you have to be on FLIR wide zoom, TV does not have these issues (my guess due to slew rate). Pilot side server-20250124-194558.trk CPG track AH-64-20250124-194738.trk 1 2
Floyd1212 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 I watched the CPG track and there it is, plain as can be. Thanks for taking the time to make it. 1
admiki Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) @Lord Vaderhave you taken a look at provided track? If the issue is shown, can you change clasification of this thread? Edited January 27 by admiki
ED Team Lord Vader Posted January 27 ED Team Posted January 27 Hello @admiki Please allow some time to test and verify conditions. All reports are looked into but please remember we need time a resources to look into many other issues. I've raised this internally for analysis. Esquadra 701 - DCS Portugal - Discord
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