incredibly long loading times before all textures are loaded and mouse cursor is available (> 5 minutes)

[majorswitcher]

When I load a single player, quick cold & dark ramp in Syria with the F16, it's takes about 3 minutes before I'm sat in the cocktpit. The textures of the cockpit are then finished loading + cursor available within about 20 seconds. 

When I load into a campaign mission (I've got Weasels First In campaign), it also takes 3 minutes before I'm from the menu into the cockpit. But the loading of textures really takes ages. Last time I stopwatched, it was literally 10 minutes before every texture and shader was applied and mouse cursor was available! That is astounding long. Can't be right??

I'm on a pretty high end system I think: 7800X3D, 4070 ti super, 32ggb ddr5 ram. I am on VR, but I'll test later in 2d as well. Settings are not crazy high, most are medium. Textures are high. hard drive where all dcs is on is a 2tb m.2 ssd

But again, Instant fly cold & dark in syria, 20 seconds after in cockpit. Campaign, near 10 minutes. What could be causing this? Does everyone have loading times around this much in a (probably big, but ok) campaign mission? 10 minutes waiting is not normal in current day computers right?

edit: without VR it's 5min from menu to sit in cockpit, and all textures are immediately loaded and cursor available

curious to hear others experiences with this

Edited October 27, 2024 by majorswitcher

[khroma]

I have the same problem today even though it was working fine before.

 

[Mr_sukebe]

Mine is much faster.

Questions:

- do you clean out the FXO and Metashaders are each game or video driver update?  If not, do it.  The first new run will be slow, but post that, much faster

- Are your terrain texture settings High?  If so, try Low.  That really impacts upon the size of the textures

- hoe much VRAM do you have?  DCS uses a LOT.

[majorswitcher]

1 hour ago, Mr_sukebe said:

Mine is much faster.

Questions:

- do you clean out the FXO and Metashaders are each game or video driver update?  If not, do it.  The first new run will be slow, but post that, much faster

- Are your terrain texture settings High?  If so, try Low.  That really impacts upon the size of the textures

- hoe much VRAM do you have?  DCS uses a LOT.

Thanks for your reply. I didn’t know about and havo not cleaned out FXO and Metashaders. Where do I do this?

terrain is high indeed, will try low.

my 4070 ti super is 16GB.

[Raisuli]

It takes about six weeks for the world to appear.  I thought they had that down to 7 days, but it's been like this for a very long time.

 

[MAXsenna]

Thanks for your reply. I didn’t know about and havo not cleaned out FXO and Metashaders. Where do I do this?
terrain is high indeed, will try low.
my 4070 ti super is 16GB.

In the Saved Games DCS folder. Just delete the two folders called FXO and Metashaders2. They will be recreated when starting DCS.

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[Moxica]

2 hours ago, Mr_sukebe said:

Mine is much faster.

Questions:

- do you clean out the FXO and Metashaders are each game or video driver update?  If not, do it.  The first new run will be slow, but post that, much faster

- Are your terrain texture settings High?  If so, try Low.  That really impacts upon the size of the textures

- hoe much VRAM do you have?  DCS uses a LOT.

Why would one  "clean out" the FXO and Metashaders?
By the way, I have 24 GB of vram, thats HOW much VRAM I have, and the loading times (there are several) is incredibly long, loading from M2 SSD.

[MAXsenna]

Why would one  "clean out" the FXO and Metashaders?
By the way, I have 24 GB of vram, thats HOW much VRAM I have, and the loading times (there are several) is incredibly long, loading from M2 SSD.

How much does it use?
You probably need to clean the old ones out to prevent conflicts. Not sure why, as this is the first game that tought me they existed. I've never noticed any difference ever.

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[khroma]

Thank you for the response, I tried, but it doesn't really change anything—I'm still having issues with texture loading times, and above all, a loss of fluidity. I've tried many possibilities; before, it was working very well in VR. I'll wait; maybe it's an issue with the game itself.

 

[Nptune]

Use crap cleaner to clean your pc before you play. I have 30708gb and 32gb ram i7 12th and texture loading time is only like 15 seconds. I find after using web browser and not using after before playing dcs i can have loading issues.

[sirrah]

I'm having the same issues. Assumed it was my "steampowered" old rig and I've made my peace with it  

 

Fwiw (If all the above advice doesn't work): I noticed that when I wait with pressing the "FLY" button when my mission is loaded, the cockpit textures load considerably faster. This is especially noticable in the CH-47.

So, when you get this screen (example screenshot):


wait untill all cockpit textures are loaded and then press "FLY"
 

(Loading the mission itself, just takes a long time for me. Haven't found a way of speeding that up myself. Deleting FXO and metashaders actually seem to make it take even longer)

Edited October 28, 2024 by sirrah

[MAXsenna]

I'm having the same issues. Assumed it was my "steampowered" old rig and I've made my peace with it  
 
Fwiw (If all the above advice doesn't work): I noticed that when I wait with pressing the "FLY" button when my mission is loaded, the cockpit textures load considerably faster. This is especially noticable in the CH-47.
So, when you get this screen (example screenshot):


wait untill all cockpit textures are loaded and then press "FLY"
 
(Loading the mission itself, just takes a long time for me. Haven't found a way of speeding that up myself. Deleting FXO and metashaders actually seem to make it take even longer)

Cleaning out those folders makes the loading take longer as it needs to calculatee all those shaders the first time. This will also happen if you use texture mods on maps etc. To speed up loading time, I by change have set the preload radius down to 100, basically off. Even gains me some FPSs and I don't have any stuttering to speak of. 32GBs of RAM.

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[khroma]

Hello, my problem was resolved with a clean reinstall. I don’t understand why, but what matters is that it works, and thank you to the people who help others on DCS.

[MAXsenna]

Hello, my problem was resolved with a clean reinstall. I don’t understand why, but what matters is that it works, and thank you to the people who help others on DCS.

Next time do a repair. It's the same as a re-installation, only waaaaaay quicker.
Cheers!

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[Eroxz564]

DCS have been like this for ages and still havent been fixed

[majorswitcher]

I was so done with waiting.. 8 minutes from clicking Fly in the menu! Started repair option, that took long. I thought OK fk it, nuclear option. I have a 1Gbit internet connection fortunately. Uninstall DCS, removed EVERYTHING. ok backed up some missions. should've backedup campaign progress (1 campaign, 3missions), forgot it, doesn't matter fun to do them again. 

Clean install, download installer from website (open.beta is no more I noticed). Installed, then installed my f16 and syria modules and 1 campaign (this combo took 8 minutes to load). 

Fired up DCS (in VR), made sure settings were good. Started the campaign: 24 SECONDS!!! I was in the cockpit without textures, at 40 SECONDS I had all textures and could start??!!!!! This is it everybody. If you are experiencing these crazy load times, just do it. clean install. btw my preload radius is at 40000 now. 
Nothing stutters, total smooth experience. So happy! 

[khroma]

12 hours ago, majorswitcher said:

I was so done with waiting.. 8 minutes from clicking Fly in the menu! Started repair option, that took long. I thought OK fk it, nuclear option. I have a 1Gbit internet connection fortunately. Uninstall DCS, removed EVERYTHING. ok backed up some missions. should've backedup campaign progress (1 campaign, 3missions), forgot it, doesn't matter fun to do them again. 

Clean install, download installer from website (open.beta is no more I noticed). Installed, then installed my f16 and syria modules and 1 campaign (this combo took 8 minutes to load). 

Fired up DCS (in VR), made sure settings were good. Started the campaign: 24 SECONDS!!! I was in the cockpit without textures, at 40 SECONDS I had all textures and could start??!!!!! This is it everybody. If you are experiencing these crazy load times, just do it. clean install. btw my preload radius is at 40000 now. 
Nothing stutters, total smooth experience. So happy! 

Yes, that’s the solution: don't forget to properly delete or move the "DCS.openbeta" folder located in "Users".

[MAXsenna]

Yes, that’s the solution: don't forget to properly delete or move the "DCS.openbeta" folder located in "Users".

Nah, depends. A repair does exactly what a re-installation would do. You do have a point though. With a fresh install, OpenBeta is gone. So, if OP was using OB previously, a new Saved Games folder was recreated. A repair doesn't touch Saved Games. I'm willing to bet that the fault lies there.
Steps to set DCS back to vanilla. Rename Saved Games folder. NEVER delete, keep it as backup. Perform a full slow repair. That's it. The Updater is actually the Updater, installer and repairer. That's what happens when you install. It checks what files are missing, then downloads.
Cheers!

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