Gun Crosshairs in the F-14 is off

[Death_Angel]

I remember vividly when in a dogfight you had to put the crosshairs on the diamond and shoot and the gun rounds would all hit the target.

For over a year now it's been off and if you align the crosshairs with the diamond, it will miss! Instead you have to shoot in front of the diamond and lead for it to connect.

The screenshot shows roughly how far off it is.
 

Edited December 6, 2024 by Death_Angel

[RustBelt]

There shouldn't be an "X" there on the hud. Something's not right.

[Death_Angel]

34 minutes ago, RustBelt said:

There shouldn't be an "X" there on the hud. Something's not right.

the X might be irrelevant, because i took the screenshot seconds after i had shot.

Edited December 6, 2024 by Death_Angel

[Nealius]

I've frequently had the X appear after firing my bursts as well. Never understood why. I've also never had an accurate gun solution either. I always have to Kentucky-windage it after the first burst or two.

Edited December 6, 2024 by Nealius

[draconus]

[RustBelt]

Oh the X there is the breakaway cue.

5 hours ago, draconus said:

As usual, how weird that a late 60’s computer has limits/s

[draconus]

2 minutes ago, RustBelt said:

As usual, how weird that a late 60’s computer has limits/s

Nobody asks for laser weapon. The consistent deviation points to code error though.

[Death_Angel]

On 12/6/2024 at 10:33 PM, RustBelt said:

Oh the X there is the breakaway cue.

As usual, how weird that a late 60’s computer has limits/s

The gun sight is definitely off and I'd be real surprised if it was intentional

[RustBelt]

How off? Because it’s a historical sight so it’s showing you a bullets travel time in the past. Also are you flying coordinated? It can’t compensate for slip or skid conditions. 

[Nealius]

Does it really not account for slip/skid? Even the old K-14 from the '40s could do that.

[draconus]

9 hours ago, RustBelt said:

How off? Because it’s a historical sight so it’s showing you a bullets travel time in the past. Also are you flying coordinated? It can’t compensate for slip or skid conditions. 

You're theorising without even knowing what is implemented in the game and clearly not even bothered to read the other thread, where it was tested by user in stable turns.

There wouldn't be this discussion if we had more realistic pipper wandering all over the place. But it is very stable and so are the results. Both unrealistic.

[RustBelt]

Theorizing is literally what everyone here is doing. 

[Death_Angel]

On 12/15/2024 at 2:12 AM, RustBelt said:

Theorizing is literally what everyone here is doing. 

But you sound like you're just trying to debunk this post without caring about the actual issue.

[Nealius]

To be fair, this discussion can go both ways because Victory's (an SME who actually used this thing in real life) explanation points to this being realistic, while other modules tend to have similar radar gun solution issues as well. This has potential to be not much different than people expecting high accuracy from their RWRs, or high reliability from TWS when reality is different.

[MAXsenna]

Theorizing is literally what everyone here is doing. 

Self awareness gets you a long way, right?

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[draconus]

13 minutes ago, Nealius said:

To be fair, this discussion can go both ways because Victory's (an SME who actually used this thing in real life) explanation points to this being realistic, while other modules tend to have similar radar gun solution issues as well. This has potential to be not much different than people expecting high accuracy from their RWRs, or high reliability from TWS when reality is different.

Again, I get that it should not be very accurate and I would really like to see it implemented that way but the thing tends to always be inaccurate in the same direction - and that's suspicious.

[Nealius]

11 hours ago, draconus said:

Again, I get that it should not be very accurate and I would really like to see it implemented that way but the thing tends to always be inaccurate in the same direction - and that's suspicious

Yeah I agree, but I'm holding judgement until HB or ED discloses anything about the behavior being intentional via modeling of radar scintillation/otherwizardryI'mtoodumbtounderstand. Until then, I rip my burst from tail to nose to ensure hits.

[RustBelt]

18 hours ago, Death_Angel said:

But you sound like you're just trying to debunk this post without caring about the actual issue.

Well here’s the thing, i’m only willing to care about DCS as much as ED is willing to care about DCS. I’ll only ever meet them where they’re at. And that’s pretty low when it comes to deep crunchy functionality. Heatblur shipped it seemingly this way, or were not informed by ED of changes that would affect their work, so, it’s a much easier road to accept what is, not what “should be”.