Blinde Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: You are aware that a full slow repair is exactly the same as performing a complete re-installation? A repair will not touch Saved Games, try to rename your DCS folder in Saved Games to DCS.old and try again. With problems like this, a corruption in Saved Games is often the culprit, a repair/re-installation will never fix. It's also good practice to post the DCS.log, please do! Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Tried that before the reinstall, no difference. And by dcs.log do you mean that single file or the packed one? Edited January 20 by Blinde
MAXsenna Posted January 20 Posted January 20 After I removed my franken sidewinder and run repair problem seemed to be resolved but I am not sure, it may reoccur anytime How did you mod the grip to your stick? Do you run a cable from it to the old base, or have you fully modded it into the MS base. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Tried that before the reinstall, no difference. And by dcs.log do you mean that single file or the packed one?You tried a repair? Like I said. The processes are identical. The Updater is actually responsible for installing, updating and repairing DCS. While none of that will help if the error is in Saved Games. Did you try to rename the DCS folder in Saved Games?The file called DCS.log, while the crash logs are nice too. I assume you kill the DCS process when it hangs?In a post above, there's a link to a live log viewer. I can highly recommend you install it. Then you can in realtime monitor the DCS.log file, and see what's happening when it hangs.Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Blinde Posted January 20 Posted January 20 9 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: How did you mod the grip to your stick? Do you run a cable from it to the old base, or have you fully modded it into the MS base. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk You tried a repair? Like I said. The processes are identical. The Updater is actually responsible for installing, updating and repairing DCS. While none of that will help if the error is in Saved Games. Did you try to rename the DCS folder in Saved Games? The file called DCS.log, while the crash logs are nice too. I assume you kill the DCS process when it hangs? In a post above, there's a link to a live log viewer. I can highly recommend you install it. Then you can in realtime monitor the DCS.log file, and see what's happening when it hangs. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Tried slow repair too and deleted excess files. I didn't try to rename it, I deleted the whole folder. Yes I kill it from the task manager. I'll check it tomorrow and post the log when it hangs.
MAXsenna Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Tried slow repair too and deleted excess files. I didn't try to rename it, I deleted the whole folder. Yes I kill it from the task manager. I'll check it tomorrow and post the log when it hangs. Oh, you deleted the whole Saved Games? Well, that wasn't necessary. Now you've lost your logbook and all your bindings. I guess it's not the end of the world. I'm out of ideas. Let's see what the log says tomorrow. It could be its only rebuilding the shaders in the background. It will do that the first time after updates etc. Hence why I monitor the log file when I'm impatient.Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Blinde Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Oh, you deleted the whole Saved Games? Well, that wasn't necessary. Now you've lost your logbook and all your bindings. I guess it's not the end of the world. I'm out of ideas. Let's see what the log says tomorrow. It could be its only rebuilding the shaders in the background. It will do that the first time after updates etc. Hence why I monitor the log file when I'm impatient. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Yeah, desperate measures etc. I'm so pissed about this issue since it came out of nowhere and I haven't changed anything. Whether is dcs update or windows. Edited January 21 by Blinde 1
Blinde Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) Tried once again with fxo and metashaders folders deleted. Selected F-4E and it hanged like usual on spawning objects dcs.log Tried second time with F-14A, same result. dcs-2.log Edited January 21 by Blinde 1
MAXsenna Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Tried once again with fxo and metashaders folders deleted. Selected F-4E and it hanged like usual on spawning objects dcs.log Tried second time with F-14A, same result. dcs-2.logI'll have a look later. Did I ask you what you're page file setting was? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 1
Blinde Posted January 21 Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: I'll have a look later. Did I ask you what you're page file setting was? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Default 4068. I have 64gb of ddr4 3200mhz
MAXsenna Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Default 4068. I have 64gb of ddr4 3200mhzAh, with 64GB, it shouldn't matter. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Blinde Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Something very bizarre is happening. I decided to try with custom page file so set it to 32768 and reboot. Tried dcs again, with my orion 2 hotas and got pretty much all of my modules to load to tarmac, Av-8b, F-14, F-4, F-18, F-16, M2000, Mig-21 and F-5. They all loaded just fine. I thought I cracked it. But, then decided to exit the game, unplug the hotas and restarted dcs and set F-16 on park and stuck again on "spawn objects". This is driving me nuts. 1
ebabil Posted January 21 Author Posted January 21 12 hours ago, MAXsenna said: How did you mod the grip to your stick? Do you run a cable from it to the old base, or have you fully modded it into the MS base. I have no knowledge about modding sticks at all. I met a guy on a reseller site (like ebay) for his Logitech g940 stick and after some chatting, he offered to do that for me. There are two usb cables one for CH part and one for sidewinder part. There is a switch for turning on/off the FFB feature. Actually it works perfect except the weird smell I suspect that it wouldn't last for long anyway. 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I have no knowledge about modding sticks at all. I met a guy on a reseller site (like ebay) for his Logitech g940 stick and after some chatting, he offered to do that for me. There are two usb cables one for CH part and one for sidewinder part. There is a switch for turning on/off the FFB feature. Actually it works perfect except the weird smell I suspect that it wouldn't last for long anyway. I see! Sort of what I do then. I route a cable from the grip to Warthog/Virpil base. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 1
MAXsenna Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Something very bizarre is happening. I decided to try with custom page file so set it to 32768 and reboot. Tried dcs again, with my orion 2 hotas and got pretty much all of my modules to load to tarmac, Av-8b, F-14, F-4, F-18, F-16, M2000, Mig-21 and F-5. They all loaded just fine. I thought I cracked it. But, then decided to exit the game, unplug the hotas and restarted dcs and set F-16 on park and stuck again on "spawn objects". This is driving me nuts. Apologies for not getting back to you yesterday. Life.Anyway, both logs hangs on Heatblur DLLs. Have you excluded the DCS core installation folders in your Anti-Virus solution? If not. You should. It could be it just takes a long time scanning the files.Do a full repair after for good measure, if you hadn't added exclusions before.Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 1
Blinde Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) 7 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Apologies for not getting back to you yesterday. Life. Anyway, both logs hangs on Heatblur DLLs. Have you excluded the DCS core installation folders in your Anti-Virus solution? If not. You should. It could be it just takes a long time scanning the files. Do a full repair after for good measure, if you hadn't added exclusions before. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Thanks for the reply. I've added exclusions. I did full repair earlier and it didn't help. The hang happens on other modules too, not just the Heatblur. I just tested those two for the logs since especially F-4E hangs. Another is Av-8b. Hornet works sometimes. Edited January 23 by Blinde 1
MAXsenna Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Thanks for the reply. I've added exclusions. I did full repair earlier and it didn't help. The hang happens on other modules too, not just the Heatblur. I just testes those two for the logs since especially F-4E hangs. Another is Av-8b.Right. It just hangs right? It doesn't crash? How long have you waited, it did rebuild a lot of shaders. You could have a look in the Windows EventViewer just in case. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Blinde Posted January 23 Posted January 23 18 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Right. It just hangs right? It doesn't crash? How long have you waited, it did rebuild a lot of shaders. You could have a look in the Windows EventViewer just in case. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk Yes it just hangs. No crash until I open task manager and then switch back to dcs, the windows says that the program doesn't respond etc. Sometimes if I wait like 15 min it might load and go to cockpit. This hang doesnt usually happen with AI controlled planes.
ebabil Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 After the latest update, problem has returned. Hangs on “spawn object” Very solid game. Thank you 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 23 Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, ebabil said: After the latest update, problem has returned. Hangs on “spawn object” Very solid game. Thank you Post your DCS.log? I can compare with @Blinde and see if I notice anything.
ebabil Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 attached dcs.log 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
ebabil Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 I had removed input folder completely and it had worked. Now it happened again. 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 23 Posted January 23 19 minutes ago, ebabil said: attached dcs.log 129.4 kB · 0 downloads It hangs on the last entry. Same as @Blinde only different modules. You use Quaggles? Maybe @Flappie is correct while it loads corrupted controls settings.
ebabil Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 What is quaggles? No mods except a few liveries other modules hang also. Eagle was just another try. Ai planes loading but player planes not. if I uninstall and reinstall the game, I doubt it will work. So I am pretty desperate here. FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 23 Posted January 23 What is quaggles? No mods except a few liveries other modules hang also. Eagle was just another try. Ai planes loading but player planes not. if I uninstall and reinstall the game, I doubt it will work. So I am pretty desperate here. No, a re-installation is just the same as a full repair. To go completely vanilla, one has to rename Saved Games as well. Any errors in Windows EventViewer?Quaggles Injector makes you add controls settings without changing the Lua files in core, but rather keep them in Saved Games. Should be added to default core honestly. It's that good! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Blinde Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) At first I deleted the input folder, then I tried deleting the whole dcs.openbeta folder from the saved games. Then repair and the problem was still there. Reinstalled everything from the scratch (which apparently was pointless) and started the game without any mods and with just keyboard installed. And the game hangs. AI planes load just fine, but cockpit seems to be the issue. And it's not consisted, sometimes it miraculously loads just fine with my orion 2 hotas. But most of the time it just hangs on "spawn objects". Sometimes waiting up to 15min works, rarely alt+tab to taskmanager works. Tried Logviewer too but it gave me pretty much same results as looking through the dcs.log. This must be an bug related to MP spawn issue since these appear to be same kind. Edited January 24 by Blinde
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