VampireNZ Posted January 14 Posted January 14 As per attached pics from Caucasus and Nevada maps. Vampire
Solution Czar66 Posted January 14 Solution Posted January 14 (edited) @VampireNZ I had this. I fixed it with deleting the FXO and METASHADERS2 folders inside 'Saved games/DCS'. <OS drive>:\Users\<your username in your machine>\Saved Games\DCS The issue never returned. Edited January 14 by Czar66 tag
VampireNZ Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 (edited) 5 hours ago, rob10 said: Already reported about 2 posts down: Negative - different effect. Also I did search other cloud posts for a similar effect and didn't find one. 4 hours ago, Czar66 said: @VampireNZ I had this. I fixed it with deleting the FXO and METASHADERS2 folders inside 'Saved games/DCS'. <OS drive>:\Users\<your username in your machine>\Saved Games\DCS The issue never returned. LMAO - oh really? I have been away from DCS for 2 years and this is STILL a thing you need to do?? I thought these folders were getting deleted by the update process automatically. Testing - will get back with result. Cheers. EDIT: Looks to have done the trick. Should have been the first thing I tried lol. Back to deleting folders after every update I guess. Edited January 14 by VampireNZ 1 Vampire
Czar66 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 3 hours ago, VampireNZ said: LMAO - oh really? I have been away from DCS for 2 years and this is STILL a thing you need to do?? I thought these folders were getting deleted by the update process automatically. Testing - will get back with result. Cheers. EDIT: Looks to have done the trick. Should have been the first thing I tried lol. Back to deleting folders after every update I guess. yeahh.................To be fair, ED changed a whole lot on shaders when adding the fog and I only think a couple of times of this fix being actually useful before, beyond placebo effects in 12 years. I'm glad this fixed it for you. I agree on shaders being rebuilt on DCS updates. It has no major effect on performance the first time it is built anyways.
draconus Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) On 1/15/2025 at 12:44 AM, Czar66 said: It has no major effect on performance the first time it is built anyways. It significantly increases loading times first time you use the map or unit. Edited January 16 by draconus 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Czar66 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 3 hours ago, draconus said: It significantly increases loading times first you use the map or unit. I haven't noticed it at all on a NVME and I don't remember it on a sata SSD. Non issue, maybe? I'd chose a compulsory shader rebuild at every DCS update, than having to face stuff like this from time to time.
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted January 16 Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, Czar66 said: I haven't noticed it at all on a NVME and I don't remember it on a sata SSD. Non issue, maybe? Oh I have noticed. It is in fact so much NOT of a non-issue that I never judge DCS performance (after for example performance improvements in a given patch) the first time I load up the sim after patching: it is that much of a difference. 3 Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
draconus Posted January 16 Posted January 16 21 minutes ago, Xyu3a6eu said: But they look super aliased when at far Are you using MSAA? Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Czar66 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: Oh I have noticed. It is in fact so much NOT of a non-issue that I never judge DCS performance (after for example performance improvements in a given patch) the first time I load up the sim after patching: it is that much of a difference. Wait... ...so the shaders does rebuild themselves up or this is unrelated to the ones inside FXO and Metashaders2 folders? You didn't mentioned that you delete these two folders at every patch on your comment. I'm familiar with the difference in load times after a major patch. I was referring to the load times after those two folders are deleted. Which for me is very close to the same results as having them compared to a previous boot on the same version build. We might be talking about different scenarios, so I just want to clarify stuff. No intention to make prolonged arguing. For me, the way things are with the shaders is a non-issue.
draconus Posted January 16 Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, Xyu3a6eu said: Nop-/ No upscaling or any AA. You should try some. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted January 16 Posted January 16 46 minutes ago, Czar66 said: We might be talking about different scenarios, so I just want to clarify stuff. I was referring to what Draconus talked about: the first time you load into a mission and/or module, since that's who you quoted. 47 minutes ago, Czar66 said: No intention to make prolonged arguing. Good. Neither do I. Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
draconus Posted January 16 Posted January 16 13 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: the first time you load into a mission and/or module ...after fxo and ms2 folder purge. But I do it usually during the patching 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 minute ago, draconus said: ...after fxo and ms2 folder purge. But I do it usually during the patching Yes so do I. But I don't specify that on every post I make: I have said it plenty of times before, and it's been normal practice for at least a few years now. (Likewise I don't feel the need to specify I take off my clothes before stepping under the shower either) 2 Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
Czar66 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 37 minutes ago, draconus said: ...after fxo and ms2 folder purge. But I do it usually during the patching Yes. This is the info I was after. 33 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: Yes so do I. But I don't specify that on every post I make: I have said it plenty of times before, and it's been normal practice for at least a few years now. (Likewise I don't feel the need to specify I take off my clothes before stepping under the shower either) Thanks for clarifying! Many don't do it.
draconus Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: I take off my clothes before stepping under the shower Hey, you can't just come out and say things like that on a forum full of nerds men 2 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted January 16 Posted January 16 14 minutes ago, draconus said: Hey, you can't just come out and say things like that on a forum full of nerds men And yet that's exactly why I did say what I said. A tease now and then doesn't hurt anyone - and it makes me smile. offtopic P.S. That reminds me of the times I was in a hardcore EverQuest 2 guild. We were 2nd world-wide on progression just slightly below a US guild, and an Avatar had just spawned so everyone in the guild got a text asking us to turn on our PC and log in (it was early morning, around 8:30am). I was one of the first to log on, and when it became clear it would be a bit before the guild was ready for our first pull, I calmly said on voice chat: "Right, looks like I have some time then to go and put on some clothes..." and then dropped the microphone... The response from the others was priceless 2 Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
unlikely_spider Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/14/2025 at 11:28 AM, Czar66 said: @VampireNZ I had this. I fixed it with deleting the FXO and METASHADERS2 folders inside 'Saved games/DCS'. <OS drive>:\Users\<your username in your machine>\Saved Games\DCS The issue never returned. I did that but it didn't fix it for me Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1
Czar66 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 1/18/2025 at 2:30 PM, unlikely_spider said: I did that but it didn't fix it for me hi, that's unfortunate. I don't know any other fix as deleting the shaders in 'saved games' resolved for me. There will be a patch today, perhaps it can help resolve the issue. Delete the FXO and Metashaders2 folders once again just to be sure.
draconus Posted January 20 Posted January 20 29 minutes ago, Czar66 said: There will be a patch today, perhaps it can help resolve the issue. Yep, since the other thread was tagged "fixed internally" we can expect some fix. 1 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
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