OldFlyer Posted January 17 Posted January 17 The F35 FAQ suggests that ED is targeting release of the F35 module in 2026. The FAQ also says "later introduction of .... Eurofighter and others". Should we expect a release window of 2026+? 2
afnav130 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, OldFlyer said: The F35 FAQ suggests that ED is targeting release of the F35 module in 2026. The FAQ also says "later introduction of .... Eurofighter and others". Should we expect a release window of 2026+? I honestly don't see how the Eurofighter can't come out this year when it was shown so heavily on the 2025 video. But you are correct, it sure seems that way. 8
Mateo Posted January 17 Posted January 17 We are absolutely overwhelmed by Eurofighter exterior in the 2025 and beyond video. No cockpit. No single word. It is time to get some news from Heatblur. 10
TheFreshPrince Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) F35 before Eurofighter would be wiiild... The race is on! Edited January 17 by TheFreshPrince 2
TobiasA Posted January 17 Posted January 17 vor 9 Stunden schrieb Mateo: We are absolutely overwhelmed by Eurofighter exterior in the 2025 and beyond video. No cockpit. No single word. It is time to get some news from Heatblur. There was a HUD, 3:15 1
Kuezy Posted January 17 Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, TobiasA said: There was a HUD, 3:15 Not from the Eurofighter though, its from the C130. 2 Sven "Bolter" H. vLuWa.de | Staff sven.heidegger@vluwa.de
TobiasA Posted January 17 Posted January 17 vor 5 Minuten schrieb Kuezy: Not from the Eurofighter though, its from the C130. Guess I should not have watched it on the mobile... 2
Joe1978 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I'm sorry to say this but we've been seeing the A6 in the "DCS 20XX and beyond" videos for three or four years and it still hasn't appeared (not even as an AI unit). This year we saw the silhouette of two Draken and various EF animations.... What you see in the FAQ or these videos means nothing: Just marketing 9 .
Tazer83 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 The Typhoon was first teased back on March 27th, 2020 which was some time ago. The F35 timescale could potentially be the same. 2 1 AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D,ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI,RTX VENTUS 4070 12GB, 32GB CRUCIAL PRO DDR5 (6000mhz) 2X 1TB NVMe M.2 980 PRO SSD. WIN11,THRUSTMASTER WARTHOG JOYSTICK,THROTTLE,TRACK IR.
OldFlyer Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 51 minutes ago, Raviel29 said: where does this text talk about 2026?? In the section titled "When will it be available?" 1
Raviel29 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 3 hours ago, OldFlyer said: In the section titled "When will it be available?" yes, but this applies to the F35, the production of which is scheduled to start this year, and the Eurofighter has already been in production for 5 years, so please don't mislead people 1
zerO_crash Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 7 hours ago, Raviel29 said: yes, but this applies to the F35, the production of which is scheduled to start this year, and the Eurofighter has already been in production for 5 years, so please don't mislead people Open your eyes, go back to first post of this thread, and READ properly what is written there, including the picture attached. When your hamster starts running, and you finally get it, then you have my permission to go back and edit your post! @OldFlyer Yeah, it certainly seems so, which is surprising. It might be a idiomatic error in translation. I would still presume the Eurofighter to release ahead of F-35, but we won´t know until we are closer to release of either. Edited January 19 by zerO_crash 1 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Daze Posted January 18 Posted January 18 44 minutes ago, zerO_crash said: Open your eyes, go back to first post of this thread, and READ properly what is written there, including the picture attached. When your hamster starts running, and you finally get it, then you have my permission to go back and edit your post! @OldFlyer Yeah, it certainly seems so, which is surprising. I might be a idiomatic mistake (translation error). I would still presume the Eurofighter to release ahead of F-35, but we won´t know until we are closer to release of either. That's a bit rude... The OP doesn't explicitly state that the Typhoon will be released after the F-35. The language used imo refers to it being released later from now. Ie current time + undetermined time frame. It could be next week, it could be next year. That's the height of the information we have until an update from Heatblur. 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] First to Fight, First to Strike.
zerO_crash Posted January 18 Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, Daze said: That's a bit rude... The OP doesn't explicitly state that the Typhoon will be released after the F-35. The language used imo refers to it being released later from now. Ie current time + undetermined time frame. It could be next week, it could be next year. That's the height of the information we have until an update from Heatblur. Good, that´s how I recieve the user above. It does actually state very clearly that; a) It´s an extract from F-35 Q/A, b) In the extract, a release windows for F-35 is mentioned, and c) That contextually, the Eurofighter is a release post Eurofighter. The ".... later release..."-part, refers to the F-35, which is mentioned in the very beginning of that sentence. The whole idea is, that no release windows have been given until now, and the mention is of F-35 in 2026. There is, however, additional information postulating a "later" release of the Eurofighter specifically. There is nothing to wonder about there, it´s all clear. Hence, the surprise that F-35, while just announced, would release earlier than Eurofighter, which has been known as a release much earlier. Reading the thread then, I see nothing that "mislead the people". 1 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
OldFlyer Posted January 19 Author Posted January 19 2 hours ago, zerO_crash said: Open your eyes, go back to first post of this thread, and READ properly what is written there, including the picture attached. When your hamster starts running, and you finally get it, then you have my permission to go back and edit your post! I couldn't have put it better myself! 1 hour ago, Daze said: The OP doesn't explicitly state that the Typhoon will be released after the F-35. The language used imo refers to it being released later from now. Ie current time + undetermined time frame. It could be next week, it could be next year. That's the height of the information we have until an update from Heatblur. Well, as @zerO_crash has already pointed out, the FAQ states that the sentence in question puts F-35 first and Eurofighter later. "While....the F-35A will initially be the 800-pound gorilla in the room, it's advantages can be offset by .... the later introduction of more comparable aircraft like the Eurofighter..." The 800-pound gorilla comment is the anchor reference with respect to time. It suggests that when the F-35A arrives onto the DCS scene, there will be no comparator. Eurofighter to come later. You can argue all you like but that's the way it's written. Hence my question in the original post. 1
TobiasA Posted January 19 Posted January 19 You all are interpreting NineLines words like people read the book of revelation. Nobody knows, and the one who knows won't tell. We have seen quite a few shots indicating that the EF already flies, with moving control surfaces and other features. While the F-35 hasn't been started yet. And to be honest... It takes like half a year to develop the sniper pod, what makes you believe that the F-35 really will be ready in 2026? I personally think it is unlikely. The EF is ahead in terms of development time, even though the video indicates that the C-130 is way closer to release. The truth is that nobody knows. But I am pretty sure that Heatblur is very careful to not repeat the F4, being delayed over and over due to issues with newly introduced features. They got a lot of hate for it. I am pretty sure they will come around with EA all of a sudden when it is ready, probably only releasing tutorials just a few weeks before. And not drop a word before to avoid toxic attacks from the community. We reap the consequences of our own actions. 4
OldFlyer Posted January 19 Author Posted January 19 I mean, whatever mate. I asked a question based on what was written, plain and simple.
TobiasA Posted January 19 Posted January 19 vor 1 Stunde schrieb OldFlyer: I mean, whatever mate. I asked a question based on what was written, plain and simple. I had the same question. And I would like to have an answer. The answer I got when asking it was "I can't tell anything about the release date of another developer" and "we are working on it" and "still a lot of development to do". However, I don't think that analysing that one sentence there word for word and grammatically analyse it about in what reference the words are doesn't bring an answer to that question. The one thing that would bring an answer would be if HB would say "We will release it in Q3/2025" or something, but I'm afraid that this won't happen. However, the AI Draken that was teased for only a second or so, will most probably be released in 2025... I'm not losing my hope. But an answer to that question is not at reach, and I think it was probably intended to tone down the Eurofighter hype train. 2
Mateo Posted January 19 Posted January 19 I just can't understand what is the point of Heatblur to not inform us in simple and transparent way: GUYS, NOT THIS YEAR, SORRY or GUYS, MAYBE AT THE END OF 2025, BUT EXPECT SOME DELAYS AS ALWAYS or GUYS, STAY TUNED, WE'VE ALMOST DONE MOST OF THE JOB TO RELEASE IT It is simply few words, it is not a secret code of nuclear weapon launch, it is just the simulator full of bugs that few thousands of people pay $ to HAVE FUN, it's not even a GTA VI launch or some other game with really numerous society. I don't get the mysterious secret cloud over the DCS modules. 4
TobiasA Posted January 19 Posted January 19 vor 18 Minuten schrieb Mateo: I just can't understand what is the point of Heatblur to not inform us in simple and transparent way: GUYS, NOT THIS YEAR, SORRY or GUYS, MAYBE AT THE END OF 2025, BUT EXPECT SOME DELAYS AS ALWAYS or GUYS, STAY TUNED, WE'VE ALMOST DONE MOST OF THE JOB TO RELEASE IT It is simply few words, it is not a secret code of nuclear weapon launch, it is just the simulator full of bugs that few thousands of people pay $ to HAVE FUN, it's not even a GTA VI launch or some other game with really numerous society. I don't get the mysterious secret cloud over the DCS modules. It's because they got one hell of a storm for the Phantom being delayed... They made it very clear what their plan was, the plan didn't work out due to some UI issues, and then it got released several months later and people were utterly p***ed. Some of them took a week off and flamed HB for destroying their holidays. It's just the consequence of those actions. 7
Jayhawk1971 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Better say nothing and surprise everyone than give out possible EA release dates and having to backpedal. 5 1
MAXsenna Posted January 19 Posted January 19 It's because they got one hell of a storm for the Phantom being delayed... They made it very clear what their plan was, the plan didn't work out due to some UI issues, and then it got released several months later and people were utterly p***ed. Some of them took a week off and flamed HB for destroying their holidays. It's just the consequence of those actions.So true. They've learned their lesson. The community can be quite the lynch mob! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk 2 1
zerO_crash Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, TobiasA said: You all are interpreting NineLines words like people read the book of revelation. Nobody knows, and the one who knows won't tell. We have seen quite a few shots indicating that the EF already flies, with moving control surfaces and other features. While the F-35 hasn't been started yet. And to be honest... It takes like half a year to develop the sniper pod, what makes you believe that the F-35 really will be ready in 2026? I personally think it is unlikely. The EF is ahead in terms of development time, even though the video indicates that the C-130 is way closer to release. The truth is that nobody knows. But I am pretty sure that Heatblur is very careful to not repeat the F4, being delayed over and over due to issues with newly introduced features. They got a lot of hate for it. I am pretty sure they will come around with EA all of a sudden when it is ready, probably only releasing tutorials just a few weeks before. And not drop a word before to avoid toxic attacks from the community. We reap the consequences of our own actions. It´s very obvious that we are NOT interpreting anything. What´s done, is the FAQ taken at face value, and then questioned with regards to the information provided through it. I suggest you read up on communication, and FAQs are one of the ways that a company can communicate with its customers by. We all know that everything is subject to change, however the question is about how that plan even comes up. Also, this isn´t a HB specific case, rather an ED/Heatblur one, as the statement is made by a mod "belonging" to ED. To truth is also that "we" don´t know, however devs certainly have a time plan. Afterall, we're asking for a very general explanation, not a specific release date. As to toxicity of the community, while that tends to be the case with Reddit, it is not replicated here on the forums (not by a long shot!). Tobias, I think that if you don´t have much to add, attempting to suppress a very valid question is out of order. There is the door (points finger)! EDIT: I will also add, that whilst much of the fresh community might cause noise, there are those of us who have been here from the start who accepted the long development times. The concept of one general community is elusive at best, and there will neither be lynching party, nor one claiming obligatory blame. The devs are made aware through the thread that there is a potential miscommunicated message, and they will chime in as they see fit. Enough on that. Edited January 19 by zerO_crash [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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