LD-10 tracking a friendly aircraft

[Pineapple]

Hi, yesterday I launched 4 LD-10 in active mode to a WPT, they lofted but during the descent the missiles started tracking a friendly F-14 (player controlled) that was moving away from me (and the missiles) so I don't think the ARMs were tracking his radar. Is it possible they were tracking its jammer (not sure if it was active or not) or it may be a bug?

Right now I can't access my PC but if it turns out being a weird behaviour of the missiles I'll attach the track file

[BigBorner]

Thats what they do from time to time. 

Suddenly remembering the Spirit of their Ancestors

 

[uboats]

5 hours ago, Pineapple said:

Hi, yesterday I launched 4 LD-10 in active mode to a WPT, they lofted but during the descent the missiles started tracking a friendly F-14 (player controlled) that was moving away from me (and the missiles) so I don't think the ARMs were tracking his radar. Is it possible they were tracking its jammer (not sure if it was active or not) or it may be a bug?

Right now I can't access my PC but if it turns out being a weird behaviour of the missiles I'll attach the track file

can you try AGM88 and see whether you can reproduce same? 

[tekwoj]

Hmm, I've seen very weird behavior on the Su 25T's anti radiation missile, KH 25 UMT, which should have both passive radar and inertial guidance. The moment the target turned off its radar the missiles did a 120deg turn going for I don't even know what. There were other sams nearby but it didn't turn their way. I wasn't able to reproduce it in single player though.

[Pineapple]

Il 20/01/2025 at 16:44, uboats ha scritto:

can you try AGM88 and see whether you can reproduce same? 

@uboats Unfortunately i don't have modules capable of employing the AGM-88. I can try to lua hack it on a FC plane but AFAIK in that way the missile won't have an "active mode" but behave more like a passive LD-10

Edited January 22 by Pineapple

[Arbitrary]

I may have seen a similar behavior of an F-4 launched Shrike targeting an SA-2 or perhaps it was SA-3 which died or switched off. The Shrike ended up turning to follow a jamming Su-25T or an AI Mi-8.

E: this was from several patches ago so I the I dont thing the track file will work. This screenshot shows 4ea shrike fired where I believed an active SA-2 Fan Song TR was placed at Rene (it was already dead), and the shrikes turn to follow the player controlled Su-25T in the lower left of the image (possibly jamming). So anyone wanting to try to reproduce this issue, this data may help.
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Edited January 23 by Arbitrary

[okopanja]

Was doing SEAD yesterday on contention. LD-10 was flying where I told it to, but in final stage it turned toward maneuvering harrier. SInce on this server harries use jammers, its very likely that anti-radiation missiles switch to them, since they emit in the same band as radar would be.

Sadly no air kill.

[okopanja]

BTW: here I almost managed to get the team kill:

 

[Pineapple]

Interesting, thank you @Arbitrary and @okopanja for sharing these. Now we have only to understand if it's a bug or an intended feature

[okopanja]

31 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

Interesting, thank you @Arbitrary and @okopanja for sharing these. Now we have only to understand if it's a bug or an intended feature

Happened to me at least 5 times, likely not intended, but actually plausible

[okopanja]

Reproduced: it goes after jammer.

The only way it can actually hit aircraft is if it is on ground and not moving fast.

Would be interesting to see if HARM would do the same.

Flanker provided to show that ECM is on.

JF-17 LD-10_against jammer.trk