WMR dead on Win10?

[Zebra1-1]

Apologies if this is in the wrong place.

 

My PC (Win10) did a windows update this evening and I attempted to play DCS afterwards. Noticed a issue with the headset and tried to launch WMR there was a message saying that WMR needs an update (there weren't any updates).

 

Anyone else run into this?

 

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[Rokkett]

Sadly, I'm in the same boat as you.

WMR was working fine yesterday. After performing a Win10 update (KB5052077), I now also get a WMR "couldn't be installed" and "needs an update" message.

Tried uninstalling the Win10 update, as well as uninstalling and re-installing WMR and OpenX, all without success.

[Dragon1-1]

MS has killed it some time ago, I killed the updates in response (I use an external AV which updates independently). That's the only way of being sure WMR won't suddenly quit.

There might exist a hack to bring it back, I think someone figured that out.

[sirrah]

I'm a bit shocked, as I thought this was only an issue with Win11

WMR is still working on my old Win10 machine. So, in order to keep my Reverb alive in DCS, I should find a way to stop Win from updating right now? Did I understand that correctly?

 

(if so, does anyone perhaps have a link to an explanation on how to safely do this? I'm a bit of a layman in this area)

[LucShep]

6 hours ago, sirrah said:

WMR is still working on my old Win10 machine. So, in order to keep my Reverb alive in DCS, I should find a way to stop Win from updating right now? Did I understand that correctly?

(if so, does anyone perhaps have a link to an explanation on how to safely do this? I'm a bit of a layman in this area)
 

You can do that with a 3rd party app, with just one click on a button.

Windows Update Blocker:  https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/

Edited February 27 by LucShep

[sirrah]

38 minutes ago, LucShep said:

You can do that with a 3rd party app, with just one click on a button.

Windows Update Blocker:  https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/

Thanks mate

Can you maybe also confirm that this (WMR stops working) is indeed also an issue for Win10 users?

[LucShep]

44 minutes ago, sirrah said:

Thanks mate

Can you maybe also confirm that this (WMR stops working) is indeed also an issue for Win10 users?

I have no idea atm but, seeing that it's a cumulative non-security update released just two days ago (25th February 2025), it could be interfering with WMR somehow, yes.

https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/218354-kb5052077-windows-10-cumulative-update-preview-build-19045-5555-22h2.html

Personally, I'm not going to update Win10 until it's proven WMR is not affected.

Others unwilling to give up on WMR (essential for VR HMDs like the HP Reverb G1 and G2) shouldn't either, as reverting a cumulative update is not guaranteed to fix such process.

 

Edited February 27 by LucShep

[Schwarzy]

Hello, I tried this windows update blocker, but as soon as I disable the updates, my WMR stop working. Each time I open it, it closes itself directly. If I activate again the updates, it works again..

[LucShep]

23 hours ago, Schwarzy said:

Hello, I tried this windows update blocker, but as soon as I disable the updates, my WMR stop working. Each time I open it, it closes itself directly. If I activate again the updates, it works again..

No problem whatsoever here with the Windows Update Blocker app.
No interference with WMR for the two years I've ran it, still today.  All is good here (see image below).
 

In any case, you have another 3rd party app as alternative, which disables Windows non-security updates.

• InControl:  https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm

Edited February 28 by LucShep

[slickdevel]

Win10 updates from the 26th and 27th have killed WMR on my machine. Tried removing updates, reinstalled WMR, which will not work. I was hoping to get to November before losing it, I can't just run out and get a new headset or machine right now.

 

[LucShep]

3 hours ago, slickdevel said:

Win10 updates from the 26th and 27th have killed WMR on my machine. Tried removing updates, reinstalled WMR, which will not work. I was hoping to get to November before losing it, I can't just run out and get a new headset or machine right now.

 

This is really bad news, both intriguing and worrisome.. 
It does seem like the latest Win10 update breaks WMR. Which then makes VR headsets that depend on WMR not function anymore.

Just brainstorming here....  
Any of you afflicted by this, have you tried to make a system restore, back to a restore point with date prior to this update? (see video below)

Supposing that it does fix the problem (no guarantees, but fingers crossed!) do NOT let Windows update work in the background, imediately block it either with WUB or InControl.
 

 

Edited February 28 by LucShep

[Rokkett]

So, I got WMR working again after following this Reddit thread of other WMR users also being affected by the recent Win10 KB5052077 update:

 

Seems WMR becoming non-functional was an unintended outcome of the update.

In my case, neither uninstalling the update nor doing a system restore, fixed WMR.

I had to download and run the mediacreationtool as described in the reddit thread. This repairs/reverts to an earlier Win10 version. Then, when you run WMR, it updates itself, and, voila, works again. Make sure you prevent KB5052077 from installing itself again, or you may have to do it all over again (as I did!).

[Lurker]

So is it possible to get the HP Reverb G2 to work on Win11 (without WMR) or do I just throw my extremely expensive piece of plastic in the trash now? I don't really mean for DCS either, since I probably won't be playing DCS ever again, just in general.....

[LucShep]

11 hours ago, Lurker said:

So is it possible to get the HP Reverb G2 to work on Win11 (without WMR) or do I just throw my extremely expensive piece of plastic in the trash now? I don't really mean for DCS either, since I probably won't be playing DCS ever again, just in general.....

Windows Mixed Reality (WMR) headsets no longer work with Windows 11 version 24H2 and newer (so, since October 2024). 
You can still use it with Windows 11 if it's version 23H2 (or older), and you pause/lock updates.

Windows Mixed Reality (WMR) headsets still work with Windows 10 latest version (22H2).
The problem is, latest KB5052077 update of 25th February 2025 (a non-security update is not "fundamental" by any means) has broken it, though this seems unintentional.
Noone knows if this will be rectified by Microsoft but, considering the non further development of this app, it's likely that they won't bother fixing the issue.
So, for now, any WMR user should imediately pause/lock any non-security updates of Windows 10.

If want to block updates, you can do it with either WUB (blocks all updates) or InControl (blocks only non-security updates). Any of the two work with both Win10 and Win11.
 

Edited March 4 by LucShep

[calys]

Hi everyone, unfortunately I also had this problem. After installing patch KB5052077 my WMR stopped working and there was no way to restore it. Fortunately, I had a windows backup from August 2023 and after restoring it, I blocked windows 10 updates to version 22H2 preventing automatic updates. To prevent updates I used the windows policy editor. You can find everything in this well done video on how to do it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GRKkELqdgl8

 

bye Antonio