joy pull back aircraft won't go up

[johnnyxtheman]

hi simmers.

i started again playing dcs world  on a new highend pc. instaaled everything new. but found out i couldend lift of at first.. search on internet but found nothing .. so looked arround on settings and disabled everything on the VR tab becase i think maybe this is interviring somehow... and yes.. now i can lift off but only when pulled back just slidly pull back the stick, whits didden;t happen when everythin was set on installing dcs word on the VR tab.

when in flight and pulled back harder and plain start to be very nerves rolling left and right and hard to fly straight, but no or litthel nose up, only on just al litthe pull back nose goos up slowly... nose down no prolblem .. roll .. no prloblem. joy movement in plain working normal.. all settings have bin deleted and just have hardware setup, no douibles.. only needed, but still the same on every plain i tried.. 

heli no problem flying

joy in windows setting properties al work normal.

did not chanbge nothing yet .. all are standard

hoop somebody can help ,, thnks in advanced !

pc specs

vidwo RTX 4060 TI

cpu intel  i9 14900k

ram kinston 2x 32gb

mobo ASrock Z790 RIPTIDE  WIFI

M2.SSD 980 2 TB

PCU SILENCE 1050W

[razo+r]

25 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

hi simmers.

i started again playing dcs world  on a new highend pc. instaaled everything new. but found out i couldend lift of at first.. search on internet but found nothing .. so looked arround on settings and disabled everything on the VR tab becase i think maybe this is interviring somehow... and yes.. now i can lift off but only when pulled back just slidly pull back the stick, whits didden;t happen when everythin was set on installing dcs word on the VR tab.

when in flight and pulled back harder and plain start to be very nerves rolling left and right and hard to fly straight, but no or litthel nose up, only on just al litthe pull back nose goos up slowly... nose down no prolblem .. roll .. no prloblem. joy movement in plain working normal.. all settings have bin deleted and just have hardware setup, no douibles.. only needed, but still the same on every plain i tried.. 

heli no problem flying

joy in windows setting properties al work normal.

did not chanbge nothing yet .. all are standard

hoop somebody can help ,, thnks in advanced !

pc specs

vidwo RTX 4060 TI

cpu intel  i9 14900k

ram kinston 2x 32gb

mobo ASrock Z790 RIPTIDE  WIFI

M2.SSD 980 2 TB

PCU SILENCE 1050W

Check your settings. Is "game flight mode" or whatever it is called turned OFF?

If yes, can you attach a short track? For that simply fly a mission where you can easily show the issue, and after you are done, exit the flight and in the debriefing screen at the bottom you have the option to "save replay". Press that, save the file and upload it here 

[johnnyxtheman]

23 hours ago, razo+r said:

Check your settings. Is "game flight mode" or whatever it is called turned OFF?

If yes, can you attach a short track? For that simply fly a mission where you can easily show the issue, and after you are done, exit the flight and in the debriefing screen at the bottom you have the option to "save replay". Press that, save the file and upload it here 

pitty that i can only add 50mb.. its way to short but oke.. ..on  take of just pulled back a littel and start beeping. i don' remmember waht this souind is but looks like a G- force warning

at first i could even not com of the grouind but after disableing all in VR tab i could, just no stays this rappit roll if i pulled back al the way, and ths warning on just a littel pull back and starts beeping

1 minute ago, johnnyxtheman said:

pitty that i can only add 50mb.. its way to short but oke.. ..on  take of just pulled back a littel and start beeping. i don' remmember waht this souind is but looks like a G- force warning

at first i could even not com of the grouind but after disableing all in VR tab i could, just no stays this rappit roll if i pulled back al the way, and ths warning on just a littel pull back and starts beeping

forgot to mension, that i can't trim the stick,, i set it the button and the trim on the stick onboard is moving but nothing happens. and this is in game mode or simulation mode

[razo+r]

13 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

pitty that i can only add 50mb.. its way to short but oke.. ..on  take of just pulled back a littel and start beeping. i don' remmember waht this souind is but looks like a G- force warning

The first one is an AoA warning indicating you are pulling way too much. The second one is the slow speed with gear up warning, telling you to lower the gear or fly faster.

You did not pull back a little, you pulled enough hard to go pitch 30 degrees up at slow speed. You have to pull quite a lot for that.

Also worth noting is that when you stall an aircraft like you do, a wing drop or roll as you call it, is common. Reduce the AoA to stop the stall.

13 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

at first i could even not com of the grouind but after disableing all in VR tab i could, just no stays this rappit roll if i pulled back al the way, and ths warning on just a littel pull back and starts beeping

 

That is the AoA warning indicating you are pulling too hard. Especially when you are slow, you can easily exceed that threshold and stall. 

Also, a track would be much better than a video. That way we can see how much you actually pull (control indicator). I've written above how you can upload one.

13 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

forgot to mension, that i can't trim the stick,, i set it the button and the trim on the stick onboard is moving but nothing happens. and this is in game mode or simulation mode

 Can you also upload a screenshot of your game settings?

Edited March 18 by razo+r

[johnnyxtheman]

50 minutes ago, razo+r said:

The first one is an AoA warning indicating you are pulling way too much. The second one is the slow speed with gear up warning, telling you to lower the gear or fly faster.

You did not pull back a little, you pulled enough hard to go pitch 30 degrees up at slow speed. You have to pull quite a lot for that.

Also worth noting is that when you stall an aircraft like you do, a wing drop or roll as you call it, is common. Reduce the AoA to stop the stall.

That is the AoA warning indicating you are pulling too hard. Especially when you are slow, you can easily exceed that threshold and stall. 

Also, a track would be much better than a video. That way we can see how much you actually pull (control indicator). I've written above how you can upload one.

 Can you also upload a screenshot of your game settings?

i  did not pull back the stick hard... just a litle for take off and statr beeping already

[razo+r]

2 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

i  did not pull back the stick hard... just a litle for take off and statr beeping already

Thats why a track would be good. That way we can see how little your "little" actually is. After all, you are very slow and heavy. The continuous beeping of your aircraft indicate to you that you are on the edge of what your wings are able to provide in terms of lift.

2 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

Game settings, not control setup.

[johnnyxtheman]

32 minutes ago, razo+r said:

Thats why a track would be good. That way we can see how little your "little" actually is. After all, you are very slow and heavy. The continuous beeping of your aircraft indicate to you that you are on the edge of what your wings are able to provide in terms of lift.

Game settings, not control setup.

 

 

[BIGNEWY]

@johnnyxtheman ive deleted some of your uploads, you seemed to have attached to many unrelated files. 

[johnnyxtheman]

1 minute ago, BIGNEWY said:

@johnnyxtheman ive deleted some of your uploads, you seemed to have attached to many unrelated files. 

year i saw that to.. did not do that but how this happens.. beats me..

[johnnyxtheman]

9 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

year i saw that to.. did not do that but how this happens.. beats me..

i have lookt ad  the pithch axis tuning and the black  center rectagnle is not in the center of the line. should this be ?

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, can you attach a short track replay, you can save the track replay after you escape from the mission. 

Can you confirm the aircraft is not over weight? Your video looks like you are trying to pull to hard when slow and heavy. 

thank you 

[johnnyxtheman]

23 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

@johnnyxtheman ive deleted some of your uploads, you seemed to have attached to many unrelated files. 

year i saw

 

7 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, can you attach a short track replay, you can save the track replay after you escape from the mission. 

Can you confirm the aircraft is not over weight? Your video looks like you are trying to pull to hard when slow and heavy. 

thank you 

its not overweighted, i added it standard on the mission editor set skills to player,to test for the all joys reacting on the aircraft. i just pulled back a litthel just for take off. and asoon its of the ground i pusch the stick forward to go straight, but beeping start again bij just pullign it back just enough to get the nos rize,, and after the nose is up about 2/5 degreas, it start beeping again. when you look at the picture above abouit the axis tune, this little black dot is not in the senter of the  line. and it is in center of the roll line. so i think now that it is a stick calibration that is not right.. so i calibrated it in windows game contral.. and i now golook how if this is in center

[BIGNEWY]

attach the track replay we can take a closer look. 

thanks

[Czar66]

2 hours ago, johnnyxtheman said:

pitty that i can only add 50mb.. its way to short but oke.. ..on  take of just pulled back a littel and start beeping. i don' remmember waht this souind is but looks like a G- force warning

at first i could even not com of the grouind but after disableing all in VR tab i could, just no stays this rappit roll if i pulled back al the way, and ths warning on just a littel pull back and starts beeping

forgot to mension, that i can't trim the stick,, i set it the button and the trim on the stick onboard is moving but nothing happens. and this is in game mode or simulation mode

The beep is the AoA warning. When it does, it means you're essentially air breaking with the wings with how high the angle of attack is. If you hear it, you need to push the stick forward to be able to gain speed and stabilize the flight. At rotation, your plane went 20º+ nose up towards 40º later, the standard is only 10º

Refer to the page 587 of the Warthog Manual for the take off numbers. ...\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\A-10C_2\Doc or ...\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\A-10C\Doc:

• During takeoff roll, maintain directional control using nosewheel steering until flight controls become effective. Disengage nosewheel steering at 70 KIAS.
• At approximately 10 knots prior to takeoff speed, pull back on the control stick and establish a pitch angle of 10 degrees. Rotation is generally around 135 knots with a combat load.
• With pitch established at 10 degrees, let the aircraft fly itself off the runway. Do not yank back on the stick to get the aircraft airborne!

44 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

i have lookt ad  the pithch axis tuning and the black  center rectagnle is not in the center of the line. should this be ?

It should read In:0 and out:0 (zero). A bit of lack of precision in the center is not the end of the world and you always can manually compensate.

23 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

its not overweighted, i added it standard on the mission editor set skills to player,to test for the all joys reacting on the aircraft. i just pulled back a litthel just for take off. and asoon its of the ground i pusch the stick forward to go straight, but beeping start again bij just pullign it back just enough to get the nos rize,, and after the nose is up about 2/5 degreas, it start beeping again. when you look at the picture above abouit the axis tune, this little black dot is not in the senter of the  line. and it is in center of the roll line. so i think now that it is a stick calibration that is not right.. so i calibrated it in windows game contral.. and i now golook how if this is in center

You might have a stick that's not properly centered/calibrated on the Y axis as you shown on the picture. You either need to calibrate, replace the stick or adjust manually or with trim in flight for the stick current calibration.

Double check your bindings for trim as well. Don't forget to disable the 'game flight mode' in DCS options as that's not supported anymore.

By looking at your video, the rotation was way too abrupt and your plane was already looking at 15º degree nose up before lift off. A couple of seconds later you were at 30º pitch.

Refer to the manual and video references for the A-10C take off. Your reaction should be to push the stick forward.

[johnnyxtheman]

13 minutes ago, Czar66 said:

The beep is the AoA warning. When it does, it means you're essentially air breaking with the wings with how high the angle of attack is. If you hear it, you need to push the stick forward to be able to gain speed and stabilize the flight. At rotation, your plane went 20º+ nose up towards 40º later, the standard is only 10º

Refer to the page 587 of the Warthog Manual for the take off numbers. ...\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\A-10C_2\Doc or ...\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\A-10C\Doc:

• During takeoff roll, maintain directional control using nosewheel steering until flight controls become effective. Disengage nosewheel steering at 70 KIAS.
• At approximately 10 knots prior to takeoff speed, pull back on the control stick and establish a pitch angle of 10 degrees. Rotation is generally around 135 knots with a combat load.
• With pitch established at 10 degrees, let the aircraft fly itself off the runway. Do not yank back on the stick to get the aircraft airborne!

It should read In:0 and out:0 (zero). A bit of lack of precision in the center is not the end of the world and you always can manually compensate.

You might have a stick that's not properly centered/calibrated on the Y axis as you shown on the picture. You either need to calibrate, replace the stick or adjust manually or with trim in flight for the stick current calibration.

Double check your bindings for trim as well. Don't forget to disable the 'game flight mode' in DCS options as that's not supported anymore.

By looking at your video, the rotation was way too abrupt and your plane was already looking at 15º degree nose up before lift off. A couple of seconds later you were at 30º pitch.

Refer to the manual and video references for the A-10C take off. Your reaction should be to push the stick forward.

oke, i don't see this GAME FLIGHT MODE . and that is on the misc tab as far as i know so nothing to disable there. the video show the moment i start pull back a little. let the plain com up and start to beep, and this is befort i pulle al the way back , just to show how muts is left of the pull range .

and still not able to use the time mode so think that if i can use this. than it would be less beeping 

[Czar66]

3 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

oke, i don't see this GAME FLIGHT MODE . and that is on the misc tab as far as i know so nothing to disable there. the video show the moment i start pull back a little. let the plain com up and start to beep, and this is befort i pulle al the way back , just to show how muts is left of the pull range .

and still not able to use the time mode so think that if i can use this. than it would be less beeping 

You're not flying it properly. You don't have enough air speed to pull off this pitch angle and stick deflection. The beep is an AoA warning, it doesn't mean anything having more stick deflection aft before the AoA warning sounds. It is working as it should.

Aim for 180+ kts for hard maneuvers and do them in smaller inputs.

[razo+r]

17 minutes ago, johnnyxtheman said:

oke, i don't see this GAME FLIGHT MODE . and that is on the misc tab as far as i know so nothing to disable there. the video show the moment i start pull back a little. let the plain com up and start to beep, and this is befort i pulle al the way back , just to show how muts is left of the pull range .

and still not able to use the time mode so think that if i can use this. than it would be less beeping 

You are slow, so your AoA is quite high to provide the lift you need. And by pulling back on the stick, you will increase the AoA, which is already high, even further which triggers the AoA warning tone.

If you don't want the AoA warning to come this early, reduce your AoA, which can be done by increasing your speed.

And if you want to get rid of the beeping all together, you need to learn how to fly it properly.

[johnnyxtheman]

On 3/18/2025 at 2:52 PM, BIGNEWY said:

@johnnyxtheman ive deleted some of your uploads, you seemed to have attached to many unrelated files. 

year i saw

 

On 3/18/2025 at 3:10 PM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi, can you attach a short track replay, you can save the track replay after you escape from the mission. 

Can you confirm the aircraft is not over weight? Your video looks like you are trying to pull to hard when slow and heavy. 

thank you 

its not overweighted, i added it standard on the mission editor set skills to player,to test for the all joys reacting on the aircraft. i just pulled back a litthel just for take off. and asoon its of the ground i pusch the stick forward to go straight, but beeping start again bij just pullign it back just enough to get the nos rize,, and after the nose is up about 2/5 degreas, it start beeping again. when you look at the picture above abouit the axis tune, this little black dot is not in the senter of the  line. and it is in center of the roll line. so i think now that it is a stick calibration that is not right.. so i calibrated it in windows game contral.. and i now golook how if this is in center

[johnnyxtheman]

i figured it all out an now all is good , juat still have problem that joy trim is not working . 

i see the trim hat moving in cockpit but plain is not responding.

also tried whit keyboard shortcuts  but same resulds

[Flappie]

If you don't use it, ensure Force Feedback is turned off in DCS.

[rob10]

7 hours ago, johnnyxtheman said:

i figured it all out an now all is good , juat still have problem that joy trim is not working . 

i see the trim hat moving in cockpit but plain is not responding.

also tried whit keyboard shortcuts  but same resulds

What aircraft are you flying?  For some, like the F-18, you CAN'T use pitch trim unless gear are down (you can trim roll).