Flavabo Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Hello ED Team and Community, The Cold War Germany Map will be the absolute perfect scenario in DCS and i am sure on the most servers used as the standart map. It is clear that ED has a the opportunity after the release of the map, that they can start to build a new structur for this simulator. Why not start here and now with a future assets Cold War Pack. Of course some models,Tanks,AA are in the game but the quality are old for some versions and the different types are missing and skins for different nations are missing too. My idea and List are far far away from perfect and im also wrong what as more priority in what version from the Tank or Truck is better. This list is just an idea what can be sold as a DLC for combined arms . And i know that specially at talking about cold war pack , that everyone has his favourite time like Vietnam ,Korea. I prefer and that the Time to 1989 in my list what is in my opinion the perfect mix between old and new military equipment. So hope you understand the idea behind this list and the idea for a new DLC for cold war assets pack. And again i know that some stuff already in the game it is just to complete a full list for the asset pack. I started with USA,West Germany, Soviet, GDR. For the future GB and FRA USA: Trucks-Jeeps : M151 ¼-ton M39 series (Transport,Ammo,Fuel,Repair) High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) (Transport,Medic) Wheeled armored vehicles: LAV-25 HMMWV TOW HMMWV Avenger Tracked vehicles: M48 Patton M551 Sheridan M60A1 (AOS) M1 Abrams (105mm) and M1A1 M901 ITV M2 Bradley AAVP7A1 M113 (command,Transport,Medic,ammo) M109 M110 M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) M88 recovery vehicle (for repair) M60 AVLB (bridge layer new system for DCS maybe) M163 VADS MIM-72 Chaparral HAWK MGM-31 Pershing Static weapons and weapons: TOW LAW (for Infantry) M40 recoilless rifle M47 Dragon (for Infantry) FIM-43 Redeye (Manpad) FIM-92 Stinger (Manpad) M114 155 mm howitzer M198 howitzer Skysweeper MIM-3 Nike Ajax M16A2 M2 (static on a tripod) M60 machine gun Uniforms for the US Inf. Model (maybe with PASGT Vest) West Germany: Trucks-Jeeps : Lkw 0,5 t ,VW Iltis Lkw 2 t Mercedes-Benz Unimog (Transport,Medic) Lkw 7 t MAN Kat I (Transport,Fuel,repair,ammo) Wheeled armored vehicles: LARS 2 FlaRak Roland Spähpanzer 2 Luchs Tpz Fuchs (MILAN,Medic) Tracked vehicles: M48A2GA2 Leopard A1A1 Leopard 1A5 Leopard 2 (A0 - A3) KanJPz Jaguar 1 (HOT) Schützenpanzer Marder (A1 -A2) (with Milan) M113 G3 (command,medic) Gepard Roland M109 M110 M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) Biber (bridge layer) Bergepanzer 2 (repair) Static weapons and weapons: MILAN Panzerfaust 44 Fliegerfaust 1 „Redeye“ Luftwaffen-Flak 20 mm Zwilling Bofors 40MM G3 MG3 FH155-1 M114 Uniform for Infantry model an Error so cant put more images at the equipment but you know the stuff :). Soviet: Trucks-Jeeps : UAZ-469 UAZ-452 KrAZ-255 Ural-375, Ural-375D Wheeled armored vehicles: BTR-60 BTR-70 BTR-80 BTR-152 BRDM-2 BM-21 "Grad" BM-27 Uragan BM-30 S-300 Tracked vehicles: T-62 T-64 T-72 T-80 ASU-85 SU-100 PT-76 BMP-1 BMP-2 BMP-3 BMD-1 BMD-2 BTR-50 MT-LB 2S1 Gvozdika 2S3 2S7 Pion 2S9 Nona ZSU-57-2 ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" 2K22 Tunguska 9K330 Tor 9K31 Strela-1 9K35 Strela-10 9K33 Osa 2K12 “Kub” 2K11 Krug S-125 Neva 9K79 Totschka BAT-2 MTU-20 Static weapons and weapons: S-25 Berkut S-75 Desna DShKM SPG-9 Kopyo 9K32 Strela-2 9K38 Igla 9K111 Fagot 9M113 Konkurs 9K115 Metis 2A36 Giatsint-B D-20 D-30 AZP S-60 ZPU ZU-23-2 AK-74 PKM RPG-7 RPG-22 Uniforms for 3D model GDR East Germany: !!of course some same equipment as soviet and missing in this list but GDR has too what soviet has.!! Trucks-Jeeps : UAZ-469 IFA W50 Ural-375/375D Tatra 813 Wheeled armored vehicles: BTR-152 Schutzenpanzerwagen 60PB Schutzenpanzerwagen-70 BM-21 Grad RM-70 ZIL 135 MAZ-543 9K71-B Totschka-U OTR-23 Oka 9K31 Strela-1 9K33 Osa BRDM-2 -Konkurs Tracked vehicles: T-55A T-55AM2B T-72M1 PT-76 BMP-1 BMP-2 BTR-50 PK MT-LB 2S1 Gvozdika 2S3 Akatsiya 9K35 Strela-10 ZSU-57-2 ZSU-23-4 Shilka 2K11 Krug 2K12 Kub Static weapons and weapons: 9K111 Fagot 9M113 Konkurs SPG-9 Kopyo DShKM S-60 ZPU ZU-23-2 D-30 D-20 AKM PKM RPG-7 Uniforms for 3D Model Now in far far future FRA and GB and in some day Netherlands ,belgium ,norway,sweden,tsche rep. , polen (no List here) France: Trucks-Jeeps : Peugeot P4 ACMAT-LKW Wheeled armored vehicles: VAB Panhard AML-245 AMX-10 RC Crotale Tracked vehicles: AMX-30 AMX-13 AMX-10P AMX-30 AuF1 AMX 105 AMX 13 DCA AMX 30 Roland Pluton Static weapons and weapons: Milan Obusier de 155 mm Modèle 50 Flak 20 mm Zwilling FAMAS Mistral LRAC F1 Uniforms for 3d model Great Britain: Trucks-Jeeps : Land Rover 1/2 ton Lightweight Bedford TM Alvis Stalwart Wheeled armored vehicles: Saxon (vehicle) Tracked vehicles: Centurion Chieftain FV4030/4 Challenger 1 FV107 Scimitar FV101 Scorpion FV432 FV103 Spartan FV510 Warrior M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) M109 FV433 Abbot Tracked Rapier Static weapons and weapons: MILAN L6 Wombat Bofors 40 mm Automatic Gun L/70 Rapier Carl-Gustaf 84 mm Recoilless Rifle M72 LAW Blowpipe 105mm, field, L118 L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle FN MAG Uniforms for 3D Models Sorry for no pictures for the other list. And again this ist just an example lots of missing and some stuff a already ingame. Its more like how much wanted the community a new DLC asset PAck Cold War for DCS (20$). I hope the discussion is more about how people will have a asset pack instead of what is missing in the list :-D. with all the best Flavabo. 5
razo+r Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I am all for asset packs as long as they don't lock out people that don't have it, like the WWII currently does. I hope they find a suitable solution for this issue if they ever release more asset packs (that hopefully also get finished within an appropriate time frame). 2
SemperFi Posted March 17 Posted March 17 A map of Germany without ground troops from the NVA and Bundeswehr would be incomplete. All those who own the asset pack get good quality, and those who don't get poor quality. That would be my suggestion. 3
Silver_Dragon Posted March 18 Posted March 18 (edited) 19 hours ago, SemperFi said: A map of Germany without ground troops from the NVA and Bundeswehr would be incomplete. All those who own the asset pack get good quality, and those who don't get poor quality. That would be my suggestion. Meanwhile Ugra-Media dont build a "assets team", ED only can add textures to the actual assest or build news (actualy has redone old LOMAC/FC assets to DCS W actual level quality). Meanwhile, some of that vehicles has on the core without need a "assets pack". About others, Bridge laying, mine laying, etc need implement funtionality to work in the core. And the vehicle interiors has no planned by ED yet on CA. On fact, CA has "feature complete" and we dont expected none updates or new featrues, that can require a new complete product as a "CA 2" with a dedicated team with make a complete new line. Actual infantry units has been redone and the old, will be phase out. Put only uniforms has only a placebo, missing propper weapons and systems. Edited March 18 by Silver_Dragon 1 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
RVT2403 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Bridge layers / pontoon ferries are right on top of my wish list: Biber, M60 AVLB, TMM, PMP. 1 -
Silver_Dragon Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) The bridgelaying / pontons require updates on the core, meanwhile Ugra Media has put some "atrezo" on your firing tank range videos. MTU-20/TMM bridge? Edited March 21 by Silver_Dragon 2 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
upyr1 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 (edited) On 3/17/2025 at 10:20 AM, Flavabo said: Hello ED Team and Community, The Cold War Germany Map will be the absolute perfect scenario in DCS and i am sure on the most servers used as the standart map. It is clear that ED has a the opportunity after the release of the map, that they can start to build a new structur for this simulator. Why not start here and now with a future assets Cold War Pack. Of course some models,Tanks,AA are in the game but the quality are old for some versions and the different types are missing and skins for different nations are missing too. My idea and List are far far away from perfect and im also wrong what as more priority in what version from the Tank or Truck is better. This list is just an idea what can be sold as a DLC for combined arms . In the past I have suggested using Combined Arms modules as a way around the asset pack problem. Step one would be Combined Arms III- ideally I'd love to see something full fedeity. However if all we get is more like flaming cliffs with tanks I'd be happy as well. Just fix the VR issue (have us seated in the tanks), improve the AI, and models. Then do add ons which focus on different era and theaters. Then do the same thing with ships DCS: Fleet ops Edited March 23 by upyr1 2
SemperFi Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Am 23.3.2025 um 20:15 schrieb upyr1: In the past I have suggested using Combined Arms modules as a way around the asset pack problem. Step one would be Combined Arms III- ideally I'd love to see something full fedeity. However if all we get is more like flaming cliffs with tanks I'd be happy as well. Just fix the VR issue (have us seated in the tanks), improve the AI, and models. Then do add ons which focus on different era and theaters. Then do the same thing with ships DCS: Fleet ops I think Combined Arms should evolve into an RTS-like wargame with a simple interface. That would be a great combination with the jets and helicopters. 1 1
Silver_Dragon Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) On 3/23/2025 at 7:15 PM, upyr1 said: In the past I have suggested using Combined Arms modules as a way around the asset pack problem. Sorry by the OT. Assets packs have nothing to do with CA itself. A team (who wanted to become a third-party) already attempted to create asset pack modules in the past, but it didn't work out (They disappear). The CA functionality is completely different point. On 3/23/2025 at 7:15 PM, upyr1 said: Step one would be Combined Arms III- ideally I'd love to see something full fedeity. A Combined Arms II, and in fact will be a RTS. We have a FC CA but that product never was planned to be a "tank / vehicle hardcore module simulator", only a "no trusted" JTAC simulator. All vehicle simulation is out of the discussion. On 3/23/2025 at 7:15 PM, upyr1 said: However if all we get is more like flaming cliffs with tanks I'd be happy as well. Just fix the VR issue (have us seated in the tanks), improve the AI, and models. Then do add ons which focus on different era and theaters. None of that is going to happen, because it's not part of Combined Arms, and because it's been confirmed on the forums by the ED team that if that work were to be done, it would be for a completely new module. The same thing happens with AI and 3D models: the former is a core implementation, and the latter, either ED makes time for it or a third party creates it and sells it as modules or sends it to ED for DCS W integration. I'm sorry to say, but we're still confusing concepts. For a realistic vehicle simulation, you don't need a CA 2 or 3. You need to ED create a dedicated team to create everything related to a hardcore vehicle module (physics, interiors, functionality, armor, damage, cockpits with VR, etc.). The only time anyone thought this could happen was when Wags asked for information on the M1 Abrams Tank... On 3/23/2025 at 7:15 PM, upyr1 said: Then do the same thing with ships DCS: Fleet ops Without a dedicated team, I highly doubt it (and I'm the main interested party). There's a lot that needs to be implemented in the core before this can even be called Fleet Opps... (Weather, Sonar engine, Ship operations, damage, flooding, countermeasures, radars, weapons, etc...). It's the same as for an FPS; we're light years away if ED ever has the means, personnel, and resources for it. Edited March 27 by Silver_Dragon 1 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
upyr1 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 11 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said: Sorry by the OT. Assets packs have nothing to do with CA itself. A team (who wanted to become a third-party) already attempted to create asset pack modules in the past, but it didn't work out (They disappear). The CA functionality is completely different point. On 3/23/2025 at 2:15 PM, upyr1 said: The issue, is that a lot of people don't like DLC asset packs, because if you don't have it you can't join a server. So my suggestion was to abandon DLC asset packs like the current WWII in favor of modules. 11 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said: Without a dedicated team, I highly doubt it (and I'm the main interested party). There's a lot that needs to be implemented in the core before this can even be called Fleet Opps... (Weather, Sonar engine, Ship operations, damage, flooding, countermeasures, radars, weapons, etc...). I know there is a lot that has to be done I want ED to work on it 1
Silver_Dragon Posted March 28 Posted March 28 11 hours ago, upyr1 said: The issue, is that a lot of people don't like DLC asset packs, because if you don't have it you can't join a server. So my suggestion was to abandon DLC asset packs like the current WWII in favor of modules. Remember other "DLC" has incoming on WW2 (PTO) by ED, that modules (yes modules) has are here to stay, and honestly, no matter how much some people push for their "disappearance," I'm the first to agree that these content creators have the right to be compensated for their work (having worked in this field, I know that tool licenses aren't cheap). There have already been extensive posts on the topic, and no, there's no majority in favor of their disappearance, just a 50/50. 11 hours ago, upyr1 said: I know there is a lot that has to be done I want ED to work on it When I see an official statement from ED, that they have seriously started moving these environments (land and/or sea) and that dedicated personnel are requested (as the actual land ATC), I will believe it, For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
upyr1 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 19 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said: Remember other "DLC" has incoming on WW2 (PTO) by ED, that modules (yes modules) has are here to stay, and honestly, no matter how much some people push for their "disappearance," I'm the first to agree that these content creators have the right to be compensated for their work (having worked in this field, I know that tool licenses aren't cheap). There have already been extensive posts on the topic, and no, there's no majority in favor of their disappearance, just a 50/50. 11 hours ago, upyr1 said: I plan to buy the asset pack. I'm not entirely opposed to them, just prefer modules. IMHO I think if someone buys a Warbird but has no plans for the WWII asset pack(s) then they are a fool and they are an even bigger one if they want a map. 28 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said: When I see an official statement from ED, that they have seriously started moving these environments (land and/or sea) and that dedicated personnel are requested (as the actual land ATC), I will believe it, I want to see it in the change log after an update. Which is the reason that my requests for naval ops includes adding the necessary changes to DCS core. 1
SemperFi Posted March 28 Posted March 28 vor 23 Stunden schrieb Silver_Dragon: A Combined Arms II, and in fact will be a RTS. We have a FC CA but that product never was planned to be a "tank / vehicle hardcore module simulator", only a "no trusted" JTAC simulator. All vehicle simulation is out of the discussion. Combined Arms II? is this confirmed? 1
Silver_Dragon Posted March 28 Posted March 28 11 minutes ago, SemperFi said: Combined Arms II? is this confirmed? No,. None is confirmed or on plans by ED. 1 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
MAXsenna Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Combined Arms II? is this confirmed?I think he just tried to correct @upyr1, who wrote III. Who knows? Anyways, it's funny with all the "not planned by ED", like the F-15C. CA vx WILL come at some point whether it's currently worked on or not. It for sure is planned, but not confirmed, yet. I assume you have seen the videos driving around the airbases on the upcoming Central Europe map. Not too shabby for some old FPS games. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
upyr1 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 9 hours ago, MAXsenna said: I think he just tried to correct @upyr1, who wrote III. Who knows? Anyways, it's funny with all the "not planned by ED", like the F-15C. CA vx WILL come at some point whether it's currently worked on or not. It for sure is planned, but not confirmed, yet. I assume you have seen the videos driving around the airbases on the upcoming Central Europe map. Not too shabby for some old FPS games. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk I accidentaly wrote III but I believe Wags mentioned Combined Arms II in this video he says yes but the question is when Edited March 29 by upyr1 1
MAXsenna Posted March 29 Posted March 29 I accidentaly wrote III but I believe Wags mentioned Combined Arms II in this video he says yes but the question is when Yeah, I knew you ment 2.0, it was pretty clear in the context, and yes, I also remember what Wags said. So, one can choose to interpret "not planned" in whatver meaning one wants. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
upyr1 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 3 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Yeah, I knew you ment 2.0, it was pretty clear in the context, and yes, I also remember what Wags said. So, one can choose to interpret "not planned" in whatver meaning one wants. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk I'm treading it as "not publicly planned yet" as there appears to be quite a bit going on behind the scenes with ED we don't know about. For example, the F-35 module. Which brings back to the topic of the thread Combined Arms DLC. As I have stated multiple times in the past when/if we get Combined Arms II I'd love for them to do away with the asset pack(s) and replace them with combined arms module(s)/DLC as ED has no problems putting an asset in DCS core when a new module comes out. 1
Silver_Dragon Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, upyr1 said: I'm treading it as "not publicly planned yet" as there appears to be quite a bit going on behind the scenes with ED we don't know about. For example, the F-35 module. Which brings back to the topic of the thread Combined Arms DLC. As I have stated multiple times in the past when/if we get Combined Arms II I'd love for them to do away with the asset pack(s) and replace them with combined arms module(s)/DLC as ED has no problems putting an asset in DCS core when a new module comes out. Wags has a problem, and that's that he's made "promises" that haven't been kept. Just because he said there's going to be a CA 2 doesn't mean he has to back out like FPS. Let's remember that he's the producer, and like other videos in the past, they "promised" things, then came up empty. Also, remember that all the "roadmaps" have disappeared, and this year, there weren't any, and that may be the trend from now on. That's why I'm a little wary of that "promise," and no, I don't expect improvements, given what's come with other upgrades like the F-5 and others. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
upyr1 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Silver_Dragon said: Wags has a problem, and that's that he's made "promises" that haven't been kept. Just because he said there's going to be a CA 2 doesn't mean he has to back out like FPS. Let's remember that he's the producer, and like other videos in the past, they "promised" things, then came up empty. Also, remember that all the "roadmaps" have disappeared, and this year, there weren't any, and that may be the trend from now on. That's why I'm a little wary of that "promise," and no, I don't expect improvements, given what's come with other upgrades like the F-5 and others. I'm not saying its combined Arms II is coming out. All I am saying is the following Wags said something about it in a video There is a lot going on at ED we don't know about for the sake of the thread, we should at least be willing to pretend that Wags may have brought up Combined Arms II as a hint of ED's plans. (don't forget he's dropped hints before) I'd like to have combined arms II with as much detail as possible I'd rather have modules over an asset pack I'm not going to place any bets on this happening or not. It's the same situation with the F-111B, which I lead with the assumption that there was enough data for the F-111B, and you went on about realistic reasons an F-111B module or mod might not happen (HB licensing and other issues). It is important to remember this is the wishlist, and at least in theory it is supposed to be the place where we communicate with ED about what we would like to see in DCS. There might be 10 million valid reasons that X might never happen and its up to ED to decide if X will happen. So let's get back to the topic which is what you would like to see added to DCS in the way of cold war assets Edited March 29 by upyr1 2
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