Other ww2 european theatre aircraft - for Developers

[snak]

I have just purchased the corsair and am looking forward to the Pacific theatre pack, flying against the Japanese. But i do wonder why ED have not added other aircraft such as Hurrican, Tempest, ME 110,  etc. I understand the Hurrican would be another pure fighter but visually it would be nice to see them

Also it would be nice to see other Bombers, shooting down the same bomber can be tiresome. Again I understand a bomber is a bomber to some degree but seeing the Heinkel , wellington etc would be nice. Hopefully the lancaster will come even though it was used a lot at night during the war.

Perhaps some polls are required from ED regarding ww2

 

[razo+r]

Few things to consider:

Hurricane is nice and all, but against a D9 or K4, probably as usefull as the I-16 as of now. And if a Hurricane would come, it would take another dozen years or so before we see an appropriate enemy aircraft for it to battle, even if it's just AI.

ED still has to deliver some additional aircraft, including some bomber types, for the current Assets Pack.

Their WWII team is extremely small, so small that in fact development is incredibly, painfully slow and they often have a habit to jump to the next thing before fully fleshing out/completing the previous one.

[snak]

I must admit I do not know enough about the flight characteristics to comment on how the Hurrican would compare against other aircraft. I thought it played an unsung role durung the war including the Hardest day  for the defence of Britain  as for the other aircraft if we can start to gain some momentum for ww2 with ED they may decide to increase the team to develop it further. Perhaps this topic need more pilots to add to it to gain traction.

[Slippa]

I’d love a Hurricane. 

The more Prop aircraft the better. Flesh out our 40s bits and bobs, ground assets, air assets and lots of it. As already mentioned, the team is very small and things happen at a glacial pace (pre-Climate-Change Glaciers too).

Any and everything’s welcome though. 

[razo+r]

1 hour ago, snak said:

I must admit I do not know enough about the flight characteristics to comment on how the Hurrican would compare against other aircraft. I thought it played an unsung role durung the war including the Hardest day  for the defence of Britain

The problem is, the Hurricane basically being a 1940ish aircraft has no real chance to keep up with the 1944/45 monster D9 and K4 we have in DCS. Like I said, it's like the I-16 right now. Nice to have, but until it has an appropriate counterpart, meaning early 109s or perhaps even early 190s, it's not going to be the best choice to do as of now.

1 hour ago, snak said:

  as for the other aircraft if we can start to gain some momentum for ww2 with ED they may decide to increase the team to develop it further. Perhaps this topic need more pilots to add to it to gain traction.

Highly doubtfull. WWII for DCS is a niche product. Few people and fewer developers simply will not be enough to get it going. Newer players likely don't really care about props, they want mostly F-16/18 or F-35 with as much stuff to blow up as quickly as possible. And as long as the WWII setting in DCS is rather unfinished/unpolished, it will stay more of an afterthought, in my opinion. 

[[HOUNDS] CptTrips]

On 7/12/2025 at 6:03 AM, razo+r said:

Highly doubtfull. WWII for DCS is a niche product. 

So are rotary aircraft.

Look, I know WWII stuff isn't the core focus.  But look at Look at the ...other Russian built game and look at the ...other upcoming WWII game and there is obviously just as big and enthusiastic a market as anyone clamoring for an Apache or Kiowa.  And I love those too.

The WWII community has not grown in DCS because the company has made it pretty clear that they have little interest in them.  That seems like a perfectly rational reaction.  

I'd like to see at least parity in interest, vision, resource allocation, and fan service for the WWII fans that they have shown the rotary fans.

I think now, with one competitor abandoning the WWII genre inexplicably to go try and compete against them in jets products? (Oh that will work out well), and another potential competitor openly stating they are gunning to challenge DCS in the high fidelity space,  I think now would be the perfect time to move into that WWII space before the new competitor can get dangerous. 

The best way to handle a potential adversary is to strangle them in the crib while they are still an infant.  

They best not let them get a foothold in the high fidelity space with an unserved Pacific WWII niche.  Unserved niches are the breeding ground for competitors.  And once established with momentum, they will become a much greater threat and much harder to defeat later.

 

Ignore the potential competitor at your peril.  If they can match your high-fidelity and beat your production cadence (which frankly won't be hard) then I think you have the potential for real future headache.

And who is to say once they have established themself as a high-fidelity alternative to DCS, who is to say that long term they will only stick to WWII.  Their product series title doesn't particularly restrict them to WWII.  That is just the best unserved space they see to get a foothold in.   

 

That said, I don't have anything against those newcomers.  I think their product is very interesting.  The above is just trying to see the strategic terrain from ED's point of view.  

From customer's point of view,  I wish them luck.  If DCS won't serve the high-fidelity WWII market, eventually another competitor will.  Whoever does first , gets my money.  I'd still fly DCS for the whirly birds though.  I think they can stand to relax on that market more than they can afford to ignore WWII.  There are no, real potential rotary competitors that I see on the horizon.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 13 by [HOUNDS] CptTrips

[Kang]

Sometimes it's as if that whole 'lets go for the rare late-war 109' was a bit of a bad move in retrospect...