not a bug Rearm and Refuel

[Pribs86]

I'll do the best I can to describe this since I don't have any screenshots, video or data. I can only speak for the center tank because that's all I've used. In the F/A-18C, you can take off, burn the center drop tank, land with it still attached, rearm and refuel and it will put a full, fresh, tank on the A/C so you have full fuel when you take off again. If you do this exact same procedure in the F-16C you will NOT get a fresh center tank it will be empty. You either have to remove the tank in the rearm and refuel menu then add it again in the rearm and refuel menu (so you have to rearm and refuel twice every time) -OR- you MUST jettison the tank in flight. It will NOT give you a fresh, full, tank when you rearm and refuel with it attached from the previous flight even though the rearm and refuel page shows a center fuel tank attached. It will be empty. I have tested this many times and it's like clock work. 100% every single time. Like I said I have not tested this with the wing tanks though.

 

Thanks!

Edited yesterday at 02:47 PM by Pribs86

[Tholozor]

Try opening the AAR door, this will depressurize the external tanks.

[Pribs86]

18 minutes ago, Tholozor said:

Try opening the AAR door, this will depressurize the external tanks.

Well what the heck. I guess it wasn't a bug. I looked all over in the manual but this is all I found on page 65, I guess I never added 2 and 2 together as it wasn't mentioned in the rearm and refueling page specifically. Thanks a lot man, I appreciate you! NOT A BUG. Operator error!

[RogueSpecterGaming]

1 hour ago, Pribs86 said:

I'll do the best I can to describe this since I don't have any screenshots, video or data. I can only speak for the center tank because that's all I've used. In the F/A-18C, you can take off, burn the center drop tank, land with it still attached, rearm and refuel and it will put a full, fresh, tank on the A/C so you have full fuel when you take off again. If you do this exact same procedure in the F-16C you will NOT get a fresh center tank it will be empty. You either have to remove the tank in the rearm and refuel menu then add it again in the rearm and refuel menu (so you have to rearm and refuel twice every time) -OR- you MUST jettison the tank in flight. It will NOT give you a fresh, full, tank when you rearm and refuel with it attached from the previous flight even though the rearm and refuel page shows a center fuel tank attached. It will be empty. I have tested this many times and it's like clock work. 100% every single time. Like I said I have not tested this with the wing tanks though.

 

Thanks!

Do note, that when using wing tanks you need to be under 4000lbs of fuel to refuel those. Best practice is to land with 1200 to 1800lbs of fuel to ensure they refuel all the way. 

[skywalker22]

2 hours ago, RogueSpecterGaming said:

Do note, that when using wing tanks you need to be under 4000lbs of fuel to refuel those. Best practice is to land with 1200 to 1800lbs of fuel to ensure they refuel all the way. 

If I recall, the min left fuel in tank in 1400 lbs to be able to refuel to max possible (quantity depends on number of external tanks). If you have lets say 1500 lbs left, you will be missing 100 lbs of fuel after refueling.

[falconzx]

or... enable GND Jettison Switch, then Jettison on ground the empty tank before the crew put a new one (in this way you are manually simulate by yourself the removal of the empty one)

Edited 15 hours ago by falconzx

[RogueSpecterGaming]

1 hour ago, falconzx said:

or... enable GND Jettison Switch, then Jettison on ground the empty tank before the crew put a new one (in this way you are manually simulate by yourself the removal of the empty one)

There is literally no need to do that. And irl we wouldnt remove tanks to put on new ones because the new ones would still have to be filled. We dont ever load full fuel tanks. So that doesnt simulate anything. It also sounds like OP is trying not to jettison anything. And some servers have warehouse systems enabled so if you do that, and there is a limited number of fuel tanks, then you eat into the number of tanks available screwing other people over.

[skywalker22]

@RogueSpecterGaming I'm wondering, and since you know from 1st hand how this goes IRL, how othen do they jettison external fuel tanks, if ever? Specially now days when there is practically no dog fights any more.

[RogueSpecterGaming]

13 minutes ago, skywalker22 said:

@RogueSpecterGaming I'm wondering, and since you know from 1st hand how this goes IRL, how othen do they jettison external fuel tanks, if ever? Specially now days when there is practically no dog fights any more.

Extremely rare. Cant even remember the last time I heard about a jet doing it with fuel tanks. I've seen more accidental jettisons of TERs than with fuel tanks on purpose. Even during emergencies it is pretty rare. Usually has to be a very dire situation like theyre too far out to glide that long with tanks on. Lots of factors have to come together, outside of combat, for jettisons to happen. 

[Pribs86]

Thank you everyone for all of your input. I greatly appreciate it! I couldn't figure it out for the life of me haha