FULL FIDELITY REDFOR

[colin5392]

We know that there is enough documentation/data to create FF MIG-23 and SU-17/22.  As RAZBAM is effectively gone, can ED pick up the slack with missing FF REDFOR starting with the MIG-23 (after the MIG-29) and move onto the SU-17/22 if Octopus-G have given up on that module (speak to Octopus-G and obtain the model they were working on - it looked great in the videos they produced, before it went quiet). 

And let us know what FF REDFOR are 'possible'

DCS is too BLUFOR heavy - balance is needed where able

 

I hope for a FF SU-24 at some point in the future but that might be a stretch 

[R_0xD]

I feel like if the "credible" F35 module is liked by the customers, ED may consider recent Russian aircraft with "credible" level of simulation. For older aircraft like mig 23 or su 22, everything is possible. This is what I believe 

[Czar66]

37 minutes ago, R_0xD said:

I feel like if the "credible" F35 module is liked by the customers, ED may consider recent Russian aircraft with "credible" level of simulation. For older aircraft like mig 23 or su 22, everything is possible. This is what I believe 

CMs already stated the team responsible for other REDfor planes will be the MiG-29 team and that product must be successful.

Recent posts made clear there are intentions of making popular Russian jets and the F-35 has nothing to do with it. The only thing keeping ED from making them is workforce as of now as things seems to have switched from the past years. They just need to get the 29A out of the door and the community that begs for redfor aircraft needs to buy it.

Edited Sunday at 04:55 PM by Czar66

[SemperFi]

The SU17M4 would be the perfect aircraft for DCS. Very fast, good avionics, and capable of carrying powerful weapons, such as the KH29T, KH59 cruise missile, and KH58 anti-radar missile. But there's no official confirmation, is there?

The mig23ml/a/d is needed so that the F4 and F1 have an equal opponent.

 

 

 

[Silver_Dragon]

Remember has some proyects on the Redforce side by ED and some 3rd Parties:

• ED: Mig-29A
• Dekka: J-8II
• Octopus-G: La-7 / Po-2 / Su-17/22 (planned)
• Red Star: Mig-17F
• M3: a Mig-21Bis 2.0 planned.

Edited Sunday at 06:54 PM by Silver_Dragon

[Tom P]

I thought the whole reason why we don't have many Russian style redfor is because of some stupid Russian law. But yeah making an attempt on the most classified aircraft for DCS so the whole to world to use makes sense.

But I would take even a ton of flaming cliff style red air. 

[Mike Force Team]

@Silver_Dragon You are correct the Mig-29A will be release soon. This full-fidelty module will be a welcome change. Dekka has no release any new information lately J-811 jet. It is not clear how this upcoming module will be received in the DCS community.  Hopefully, Dekka will release an update before the end of 2025. Red Star Simulations is working diligently on the Mig-17. The Mig-17 is more likely to be at home on a Vietnam Map, a Korean map, or possibly the Sinai map. I am eagerly waiting for an update on the Mig-21 bis version 2.0 update. 

[Tom P]

I ran a poll not long ago on my channel to see where people are in regards to buying the MiG-29. It received 649 votes, a majority of players are waiting to see how it turns out. Hoping ED can make it work. But a Fox 1 fighter in a heavily dominated blue air Fox 3 environment is not great. Especially when the Russian fox 1s in DCS are not good compared to a sparrow. I honestly think that's holding people back.

Even if we got a modern red fox 3 aircraft the R77 isn't good compared to a 120. The JF-17's SD-10s used to be good. 

[R_0xD]

4 часа назад, Czar66 сказал:

Les CM ont déjà déclaré que l'équipe responsable des autres avions REDfor sera l'équipe MiG-29 et que ce produit doit être un succès.

Des publications récentes ont clairement montré l'intention de produire des avions russes populaires, et le F-35 n'y est pour rien. Le seul obstacle à la production d'ED est le manque de main-d'œuvre, car la situation semble avoir évolué par rapport aux années précédentes. Il leur suffit de lancer le 29A et la communauté qui réclame des avions Redfor doit l'acheter.

Sorry, I didn't see this. Do you know where I can find this and what popular Redfor aircraft they want to do except for the already planned one? I will not take this as a true thing but as a rumor to stick on it

[Czar66]

5 hours ago, R_0xD said:

Sorry, I didn't see this. Do you know where I can find this and what popular Redfor aircraft they want to do except for the already planned one? I will not take this as a true thing but as a rumor to stick on it

If you posted this 1 week ago, I could link you the conversation on the Razbam situation thread. Now the old posts are deleted.

DM NineLine or BIGNEWY to get the info.

Edited yesterday at 02:34 AM by Czar66
I meant "NineLine". Typo

[R_0xD]

4 часа назад, Czar66 сказал:

If you posted this 1 week ago, I could link you the conversation on the Razbam situation thread. Now the old posts are deleted.

DM Lineline or BIGNEWY to get the info.

Ok, thank you, I think I will just wait for things to be official 

[Czar66]

On 8/10/2025 at 11:15 PM, R_0xD said:

Ok, thank you, I think I will just wait for things to be official 

Hi. It turns out I found the mentions because it was on another thread instead.

See this locked thread page and NineLine posts from January.

Cheers.

P.S.: I'm not saying it is 'official'. I'm just reiterating my previous mention's details on the correct thread.

"everything is subject to change"

Edited 2 hours ago by Czar66

[Schmidtfire]

On 8/10/2025 at 9:30 PM, Mike Force Team said:

I am eagerly waiting for an update on the Mig-21 bis version 2.0 update. 

Almost every DCS enthusiast has waited a long time for the Mig-21bis 2.0.

But I don't know if Magnitude 3 still has the skillset (or interest) to pull it off. Lets hope.

Edited 1 hour ago by Schmidtfire

[Ornithopter]

If the third-party MiG-17 and an updated MiG-21 are actually in the works, I'll bet ED would hit a home run by making a MiG-23.  As some of the comments show, it seems to be in very high demand.

[Silver_Dragon]

8 minutes ago, Ornithopter said:

If the third-party MiG-17 and an updated MiG-21 are actually in the works, I'll bet ED would hit a home run by making a MiG-23.  As some of the comments show, it seems to be in very high demand.

RS Mig-17F January 20 was the last develop update on your FB
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100066692146603

The last Mi-17F Youtube video was on May 2025

About the Mig-21Bis 2.0 continue on Summer 2024, talked they continue working on them.
https://magnitude-3.com/2024/07/13/2024-summer-update/?fbclid=IwY2xjawMITJBleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETA0VnA3NHpnWkRrdmc1aGJ3AR7cW39p1uqu7F7f8dj2KaPhIEI6Avt9BdJv_D5A3gjeZcfwchTj2-p4LbHaPg_aem_e0MEyK5qlgWeRqx51opHkA

No i dont expected a Mig-23 yet by ED by the "dispute" has none resolved yet. Meanwhile has many FC-3 Red aircrafts (Mig-29S/Su-25/-27/-33) will turn on FF modules on DCS

Edited 1 hour ago by Silver_Dragon