VR in DCS is AMAZING (my mind is blown away)

[OmasRachE]

vor 8 Minuten schrieb erniedaoage:

If you don't have one you should get a jetseat or equivalent of it. That's gonna leap you on another level of immersion. And i still enjoy VR with a much worse setup than you have.  Still with minimum settings it's so much more enjoyable than a flight on the screen with more bells and whistles.

Can you send a link? My wife just asked for christmas wishes...

[PLUTON]

Hello, I asked above about the difference between the Quest 3 128GB and 512GB
and I got the answer.
Now I find that it's Quest 3 S and not Quest 3
Because I noticed a difference in resolution
both in 4K but with the Quest 3 better resolution than the Quest 3S.
For those who have Quest 3, is the difference in resolution between the two Quests clearly visible or barely visible?
Please help me.

[OmasRachE]

I cant tell because i have no comparisson. But in my opinion the quest 3 has a minimum resolution. Reading small details on the middle MFD in the hornet ist barely satisfying. I would go for a Cristal super but its too expansive. So I went for quest 3 cause in my calculation it was the best effordable value. And I am quite satisfied. But yeah pixels only substitute by more pixels.  

Edited 9 hours ago by OmasRachE

[erniedaoage]

1 hour ago, OmasRachE said:

Can you send a link? My wife just asked for christmas wishes...

https://simshaker.com/ software for DCS is free, but a couple other games need the wings or wheels software to function properly. But there are also a couple of other manufacturers out there. You can take a look into the hardware section of the forum for more information.

[draconus]

23 minutes ago, PLUTON said:

For those who have Quest 3, is the difference in resolution between the two Quests clearly visible or barely visible?

I have Q3 but have not used Q3S. It's not only the res difference though.

https://www.roadtovr.com/quest-3s-quest-3-quest-2-specs-compared/

It's also pancake lenses and 2 separate LCDs that gives you more clarity, bigger "sweet spot" and fov.

18 minutes ago, erniedaoage said:

https://simshaker.com/ software for DCS is free

The question was about jetseat or similar hardware.

btw: I miss Rift S days when I just run DCS, put on the headset and it works. Now I have to juggle 1 minute before I can run DCS: turn on the headset, wait, grab the controller, enable link, wait, select desktop view, run DCS.

[erniedaoage]

12 minutes ago, draconus said:

The question was about jetseat or similar hardware.

btw: I miss Rift S days when I just run DCS, put on the headset and it works. Now I have to juggle 1 minute before I can run DCS: turn on the headset, wait, grab the controller, enable link, wait, select desktop view, run DCS.

There is a shop button to order a jetpad. I just said that the software for dcs is free and you need additional software for other sims.

Edit: https://simshaker.com/hardware/jetpad/

 

Edited 9 hours ago by erniedaoage

[OmasRachE]

vor 11 Minuten schrieb draconus:

btw: I miss Rift S days when I just run DCS, put on the headset and it works. Now I have to juggle 1 minute before I can run DCS: turn on the headset, wait, grab the controller, enable link, wait, select desktop view, run DCS.

True.

I have searched a little bit and since on the simshaker shop the actual product is not available I had a look at the next level hf8 pro. my fingers are itching.

vor 2 Minuten schrieb erniedaoage:

There is a shop button to order a jetpad. I just said that the software for dcs is free and you need additional software for other sims.

Edit: https://simshaker.com/hardware/jetpad/

 

Hey thanks, now I found the link in the shop. Very uncomfortable shop...

Is the jetpad the holy grail? Over 322 EUR is a lot and the HF8 pro comes around 280 EUR. So is there a reason to go for the russian high prize product instead? 

[erniedaoage]

5 minutes ago, OmasRachE said:

Hey thanks, now I found the link in the shop. Very uncomfortable shop...

Is the jetpad the holy grail? Over 322 EUR is a lot and the HF8 pro comes around 280 EUR. So is there a reason to go for the russian high prize product instead? 

I can't really say, but sergios jetpad/jetseat was the first product i found and i bought mine like 10 years ago. There was nothing else execpt buttkicker or similar products with transducers and those where quite over my budget. I saw that the price increased but i paid for my first one around 200-250 with delivery. Only thing i really can say is that it's quite easy with the newer edition to swap out bad motors or replace broken cables.

The shop is broken since the start of the war and the sanctions, but you can email him and ask about anything. He is a really nice guy and he does really quick support if something happens. I had like 3 complete sets but only one working connection cable at some point and wanted to order just a new cable, till sergio told me i should try to reflash the device and all 3 cables are working again.

[Beirut]

Had my very first VR experience about a week ago. My daughter's boyfriend has a nice racing simpit and he set it up for me. For a solid ten-minutes I just sat there looking around and trying to touch my VR arms that were on the steering wheel. After a while he's telling me the car actually moves and I can drive around if I want to. Then I spent another ten-minutes watching a helicopter fly around the track and all I could think of was what VR choppers must be like in DCS. I still hadn't moved the car.

 

Between the price, the complexity, and the possible barfing, I'm hesitant to buy in, but it sure it impressive. The VR guys who have everything dialed in must be having some glorious flights.

[OmasRachE]

if you have a strong pc, the invest is somewhat manageble. I think 500 EUR is something one should be able to afford for a hobby. I biker can barely pay his injurance with such a sum. But if your PC is an outdated core i7 6600k with a 1080 like my old one, you will have to invest much more. I did update my PC last year for around 2500 EUR. But this was not because of DCS. It was just time to invest again after nearly 10 years. So the step for me was quite small. Maybe you can ask your daughters boyfriend if he visits you with his headset und you try to set it up and look how it runs?

[draconus]

34 minutes ago, Beirut said:

The VR guys who have everything dialed in must be having some glorious flights.

You bet, that's the whole point

[G.J.S]

On 8/21/2025 at 12:55 PM, OmasRachE said:

In germany we say "haben ist besser als brauchen" which means "having is better than needing".

. . . And across the channel it’s sometimes called the “Condom mentality” . . . . 
 

It’s better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it! 

[Beirut]

1 hour ago, OmasRachE said:

if you have a strong pc, the invest is somewhat manageble. I think 500 EUR is something one should be able to afford for a hobby. I biker can barely pay his injurance with such a sum. But if your PC is an outdated core i7 6600k with a 1080 like my old one, you will have to invest much more. I did update my PC last year for around 2500 EUR. But this was not because of DCS. It was just time to invest again after nearly 10 years. So the step for me was quite small. Maybe you can ask your daughters boyfriend if he visits you with his headset und you try to set it up and look how it runs?

 

I have a 3700X/64 RAM/4070 12GB. I'd guess that's at least a workable setup. 

[OmasRachE]

Gerade eben schrieb Beirut:

 

I have a 3700X/64 RAM/4070 12GB. I'd guess that's at least a workable setup. 

Yes it is. You will have to do some setup and maybe you have to turn down some settings in DCS. But you will be able to have a smooth experience. So what are you waiting for. VR is an absolute gamechanger. 

[Victor3]

For those of you looking for Haptic feedback (ie: Jetseat, etc) Watch this video: 

He breaks everything down and it was super easy and works GREAT!!!

[Beirut]

50 minutes ago, OmasRachE said:

Yes it is. You will have to do some setup and maybe you have to turn down some settings in DCS. But you will be able to have a smooth experience. So what are you waiting for. VR is an absolute gamechanger. 

 

I'll have to watch some DCS VR for Dummies videos before I make any purchases. 

[PLUTON]

So, I took the plunge and bought a Quest 3
which will replace my HP G2, which will soon stop working
(thanks, Microsoft), but I think I'll lose visual quality
compared to the G2? But I don't have a choice; I don't have to invest more in a virtual headset for now.
I found my Quest 3 second-hand for €349 at Rakuten.
I hope I got a good deal.
Time will tell.

[Victor3]

3 hours ago, PLUTON said:

Hello, I asked above about the difference between the Quest 3 128GB and 512GB
and I got the answer.
Now I find that it's Quest 3 S and not Quest 3
Because I noticed a difference in resolution
both in 4K but with the Quest 3 better resolution than the Quest 3S.
For those who have Quest 3, is the difference in resolution between the two Quests clearly visible or barely visible?
Please help me.

Before you abandon your Reverb G2 check out these 2 videos. I bought a Q3 to replace my G2, but it just has no where near the visuals of the G2 (IMHO).

 

[PLUTON]

Victor3 said:
Before you abandon your Reverb G2, watch these two videos. I bought a Q3 to replace my G2, but it doesn't have the same visuals (in my humble opinion).

You're probably right, but it seems that soon we won't be able to use the G2 anymore since Windows no longer provides WMR.
So our G2 is in the trash.

[draconus]

13 minutes ago, PLUTON said:

I think I'll lose visual quality
compared to the G2?

Others say the res is similar but they love Q3's fov and large sweet spot.

[freehand]

mm I have a G2 gathering dust will give it a go me thinks, I am on my second QP at the moment but still worth a look.

[PLUTON]

dragonus said:

Others say the resolution is similar, but they like the Q3's field of view and large sweet spot.

Thanks for the reply, but at the risk of sounding like a loser!
What is the sweet spot?
And what's the difference between the Quest 3's and the G2's field of view?

[Qcumber]

1 hour ago, PLUTON said:

dragonus said:

Others say the resolution is similar, but they like the Q3's field of view and large sweet spot.

Thanks for the reply, but at the risk of sounding like a loser!
What is the sweet spot?
And what's the difference between the Quest 3's and the G2's field of view?

Sweet spot refers to the centre focus. Fresnel lenses tend to have a small area of "good" focus in the centre. The lenses on the Quest Pro (and Q3, and Pixel Light, Super etc) are "good" across the whole frame. 

I can't comment on FoV. 

[draconus]

2 hours ago, PLUTON said:

dragonus said:

Others say the resolution is similar, but they like the Q3's field of view and large sweet spot.

Thanks for the reply, but at the risk of sounding like a loser!
What is the sweet spot?
And what's the difference between the Quest 3's and the G2's field of view?

https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=0q3goALzg&h2=HdfjN_0UlPY

With small sweet spot you're forced to look around with your head to see clearly. When the sweet spot is large you can freely look around with your eyes and still see clear image.

Edited 22 minutes ago by draconus