not planned MiG-29 Fulcrum with AGM-88?

[ThorBrasil]

Isn't this version of the MiG-29A the same one that ED is releasing? Would it be possible to add this to the DCS?

 

https://www.twz.com/air/ukraines-black-mig-29-ghost-fulcrum-showcased-in-new-video

[NytHawk]

2 minutes ago, ThorBrasil said:

Isn't this version of the MiG-29A the same one that ED is releasing? Would it be possible to add this to the DCS?

Ukraine operates 2010s Era MiG-29MU2s, recently upgraded to utilize western weapons such as AASM, MALD, HARM, SDB and JDAM-ER.

ED is making a ~1980s era MiG-29 9.12A. 

Edited August 26 by NytHawk

[ThorBrasil]

1 minute ago, NytHawk said:

Ukraine operates 2010s Era MiG-29MU2s, recently upgraded to utilize western weapons such as AASM, MALD, HARM, SDB and JDAM-ER.

ED is making a ~1980s era MiG-29 9.12A. 

Thank You!

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

 

Edited August 26 by Raven (Elysian Angel)
Fixed link

[AeriaGloria]

Probably not, but I’m hoping it works as well with modded weapons as the FC3.. Many servers allow you to carry AGM-88 and PL-12. 

[AvgeekJoe]

19 hours ago, NytHawk said:

Ukraine operates 2010s Era MiG-29MU2s, recently upgraded to utilize western weapons such as AASM, MALD, HARM, SDB and JDAM-ER.

ED is making a ~1980s era MiG-29 9.12A. 

Yes, and considering ED is also deeply simulating the avionics, getting to -29MU2 will be difficult. I'm also certain the US and Ukraine won't be terribly happy with leakers of details vs. informed guesstimates. Heckfire, they've been able to keep the contractor for HARM integration secret.

Says the guy who thinks the MiG-29MU2 Wild Weasel mission is FUN with the mod pack!

[okopanja]

20 hours ago, NytHawk said:

Ukraine operates 2010s Era MiG-29MU2s, recently upgraded to utilize western weapons such as AASM, MALD, HARM, SDB and JDAM-ER.

ED is making a ~1980s era MiG-29 9.12A. 

I would prefer first completely functional basic 9.12a. 

As for Mig-29MU1/MU2, I am kind of skeptical, since cockpit looks exactly the same and it appears they have used "hacked" avionics to place those missiles in place of R-27P. Over the years UKR did offer lot's of upgrade marketing material for soviet stuff (ewr radars, missile seekers, SAM upgrades), but we saw very little substance of those upgrades in reality. Given the level of corruption in ex-Soviet republics (including Russia), doubts arise over actual scope of work. All things I found so far mostly pointed out to improving reliability of avionics (e.g. radar) + adding limited multi-role capabilities, similar to Russian upgrade packages offered around 1996 minus the R-77. Around that time they may have been even collaborating together on this. 

Maybe the existing software got some improvements over the soviet one, but if this is MU2, then we are not talking about large functional differences, hence it may be a low hanging fruit once the 9.12a is completed.

Also, ED might decide to offer this as paid upgrade to a basic module. 

Edited August 27 by okopanja

[okopanja]

@NytHawk

 

Edited August 27 by okopanja

[okopanja]

Location near the coordinates from that photo:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ubDt8mW4G665RFSL8

Looks like hangar from 2021 pics.

[Flаnker]

45 минут назад, okopanja сказал:

I would prefer first completely functional basic 9.12a. 

As for Mig-29MU1/MU2, I am kind of skeptical, since cockpit looks exactly the same and it appears they have used "hacked" avionics to place those missiles in place of R-27P.

As far as I know, the main goal of the upgrade is to improve navigation accuracy. One or more sides were equipped with 1 MFD. There were shots of the X-29T suspension (in the factory shop). All Western weapons are integrated without any significant modifications to the aircraft. Even the satellite navigation antennas are located in the pylons.

[okopanja]

Well the pictures show a hump, which means this departs from 9.12a airframes...

Edited August 27 by okopanja

[_Zloy_]

В 27.08.2025 в 10:16, okopanja сказал:

As for Mig-29MU1/MU2, I am kind of skeptical, since cockpit looks exactly the same

This is not true. The difference is quite obvious

Спойлер

MU1

MU2

 

В 27.08.2025 в 10:16, okopanja сказал:

it appears they have used "hacked" avionics to place those missiles in place of R-27P

I doubt it. The R-27 family of missiles are produced in Ukraine. Ukraine also has a full repair and modernization cycle for the MiG-29.

Here is a diagram of the modularity of the R-27 missiles from the Artem company:

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And the characteristics, where among others P1 and EP1:

Modification	R-27R1	R-27ER1	R-27T1	R-27ET1	R-27P1	R-27EP1
Weight (kg)	253	350	245	343	248	346
Length (m)	4,1	4,8	3,8	4,5	4,0	4,7
Caliber (m)	0,23	0,23	0,23	0,23	0,23	0,23
Engine diameter (m)	0,23	0,26	0,23	0,26	0,23	0,26
Wingspan (m)	0,77	0,8	0,77	0,8	0,77	0,8
Rudder span (m)	0,97	0,97	0,97	0,97	0,97	0,97
Launch altitude (km)	Up to 25	Up to 27	Up to 25	Up to 27	Up to 20	Up to 20
Maximum range (km)
into the forward hemisphere	60	93	50	84	78	110
into the rear hemisphere	18	26	15	20	-	-
Maximum G-force	8	8	8	8	5	5
Weight of the warhead (kg)	39	39	39	39	39	39
Guidance	AR	AR	IR	IR	PR	PR

 

В 27.08.2025 в 10:16, okopanja сказал:

All things I found so far mostly pointed out to improving reliability of avionics (e.g. radar) + adding limited multi-role capabilities

MU1:

• Increased detection range of air targets up to 100 km.
• Expanding the capabilities for monitoring and recording functional parameters of the technical condition of the aircraft, engine and a number of onboard systems, etc.
• Satellite navigation
• New radar receiver unit increases total operating time to 20,000 hours
• A new radio station with a wider frequency range
• Increased combat effectiveness thanks to the new R-27ER1, ET1, EP1

MU2 - Includes the entire list of MU1 modifications and adds:

• The ability to launch air-to-surface guided missiles (at least the Kh-29T was pictured during combat testing)
• The ability to launch guided aerial bombs (at least in the photo from combat tests there was a KAB-500KR)
• Fire control system modernization
• New onboard integrated navigation and landing equipment
• New defense system "Omut"
• Adaptation for the use of "Western" helmets and oxygen masks