Good news for those with Nvidia still on the fence about Linux

[Hiob]

Our company is about to transition the Frontend Workplaces to Linux. Only thing that kept us back for a while was our ERP, but this being switched now to a server/browser solution. everything else like office solutions, e-mail, Internet runs natively on linux anyway. Most users won't even notice a difference.

PC Gaming and Office are really the only places, Linux doesn't have the bigger market share, and most office workplaces could be swapped easily to Linux.

In the past there wasn't much incentive to switch. Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 (already less so) where relatively inoffensive and Linux (admittedly) was cumbersome.
But now. Windows becomes increasingly annoying and intrusive with each update. MS becomes greedy with the licences and Linux becomes easier and easier to handle and to use.

I can't predict the speed of change. But change is happening. MS wouldn't be the first "unsinkable ship" that went keel up.

[LucShep]

4 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

I didn't say it couldn't , rather that it is not in a position to yet... the split is a function of how PC's are largely delivered... with Windows installed... when it becomes a standardised preinstalled option for more than Steam Deck , I will start to pay attention, but at the moment ...

Just like flight-sim users are, what, 0.0000001% of the gaming userbase? Who are themselves just a partial number of the total/global number of Windows users?
It doesn't matter what a few of us think about Linux, or disbelieve/contradict. Things have changed and are evolving fast, whether it takes six months or six years it'll surely get much further than it has already.

Win10 EOL yesterday, with TPM2.0 implementation by Microsoft, means basically locking out of Win11 (and upcoming Win12) a huge number of people with perfectly capable systems, who now won't be migrating to the newer OS, and will be looking to an alternative - right now that's a Linux distro.
The privacy concerns, all the bloating, the forced updates (which can and will break something at some point), all of these have been very real on Windows and, by the way things are going, more people will look for alternatives. My guess is when Win12 gets out it might tank.

I just wonder, how many of you replying to this thread have tried one of these latest Linux distros, like Bazzite, Mint, Zorin, Pop!_OS, among others?
If you didn't, then you might be in for a shock - most of them work out of the box for any regular desktop or laptop use (and for free), with an Office direct alternative included, and a bunch of free software/apps easily downloadable/installed through a "store" equivalent. No drivers hunting or installation - that's done through the distro's installation options. Just as easy/fast (if not more) to install in any system as Windows.

More people going to alternatives like Linux, either by choice or because no other better alternatives exhist, means more people messing with stuff and indirectly boosting its development, either by sheer motivation or necessity. Gaming and related subjects/accessories gets in the mix with that as well, and that's why things have been evolving fast there in last years. While not there yet for people into niche stuff like sims (such as DCS) plus respective gadgets, it'll eventually get enough conditions too.

Let's wait and see how it'll go.
One thing I'm certain, after messing with it for other users/systems, I'm definitely not "upgrading" to Win11 - worst case scenario I'll stay with the "outdated" Win10.
 

Edited 4 hours ago by LucShep

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, speed-of-heat said:

the split is a function of how PC's are largely delivered... with Windows installed

Because that’s how their customers want them. It’s nothing nefarious. If there was a profit in selling machines with Linux pre-installed they’d do that too. Some will.

But you’re still looking at and we still have a Betamax player in the family somewhere

Edited 7 hours ago by SharpeXB

[QuiGon]

4 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Then why isn’t every game on Linux? Answer: It’s not profitable. And there are also support costs even if the port was totally free. Imagine DCS support dealing with multiple OSs

Huh? Pretty much every game is on Linux now, because of this Proton layer that Valve developed. That means you can play pretty much every game on Linux nowadays (except some competetive multiplayer games that have a kernel level anti cheat protection). It's no longer necessary for game devs to create custom Linux versions of their games.

https://www.protondb.com/

Edited 4 hours ago by QuiGon

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, QuiGon said:

That means you can play pretty much every game on Linux nowadays

So why this thread then? Go convert to Linux and stop worrying about Windows   Why aren’t you playing DCS on Linux? Oh yeah cause probably none of you peripherals would work. Kind of a deal breaker… 

Edited 3 hours ago by SharpeXB

[MAXsenna]

47 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

So why this thread then? Go convert to Linux and stop worrying about Windows   Why aren’t you playing DCS on Linux? Oh yeah cause probably none of you peripherals would work. Kind of a deal breaker… 

Better read his response to me further up then. 

Linux might become the main to go OS for mainstream gaming, in let's say ≈5-10 years. Flightsims? Well, if MSFS becomes available... And pretty much everyone agrees that if peripherals and VR works. I'd say 50%+ will make the switch. Definitely if we get a performance gain.

Wish we had a "remind me in five years" feature on this forum!  

[Hiob]

50 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

So why this thread then? Go convert to Linux and stop worrying about Windows   Why aren’t you playing DCS on Linux? Oh yeah cause probably none of you peripherals would work. Kind of a deal breaker… 

You really don’t get it, do you?

Nobody suggests that Linux is the end-all-be-all solution just yet. But things are improving and some mighty players (Steam) are pushing it.

Eventually, hopefully it will become a viable alternative to windows. And that’s a good thing, because windows SUCKS (nowadays).

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

Linux might become the main to go OS for mainstream gaming, in let's say ≈5-10 years.

Likely not because people do other things with their PCs besides gaming. And most of whatever software they need isn’t going to be available for Linux. One of the big uses I have for my PC is doing taxes. Is that software available for Linux? Nope. So forget it. 

1 hour ago, Hiob said:

You really don’t get it, do you?

Right. I don’t. The angst over Windows is rather amusing though. 95% of people don’t care and have probably never heard of Linux

[MAXsenna]

1 minute ago, SharpeXB said:

Likely not because people do other things with their PCs besides gaming.

Yeah, you could be right. I keep forgetting I personally don't mix gaming and productivity on my computers.