Coordinate system type in DCS A-10C?

[igormk]

Hi!

 

I was wondering, which coordinates system will be used in DSC A-10C. On the attached picture of the MFCD it can be seen that Geographic Coordinate System (DD MM.MMM) is represented, but I also think that US military prefers UTM system.

 

 

 

 

Will you be able to switch coordinate system type in DCS A-10C? I suppose that you are able to do that in real A-10C.

 

I’m asking because I’m preparing printable 1:500000 map that is covering present DCS territories, so I’m not sure should I make only GEO grid, or do I have to make UTM grid also.

 

S!

[jerom1992]

Regarding current DCS standards, I think it will be switchable. But don't shoot me if it isn't :)

[herr_LaSk]

I bet the MFCD has an options menu where you can toggle between the two.

[AlphaOneSix]

U.S. military uses MGRS (Military Grid Reference System). It's exactly the same as UTM, but the labeling is different. Pretty much any modern navigation system used by the U.S. military is capable of using both MGRS and Lat/Long (and several others as well). If the A-10C navigation system can do it, then I'm positive it will be modeled in DCS:A-10C.

[igormk]

Still we have no confirmation from ED, but I would also bet that it will be supported regarding to DCS standards.

 

 

U.S. military uses MGRS (Military Grid Reference System). It's exactly the same as UTM, but the labeling is different.

 

Uh, yes, MGRS. :music_whistling:

 

 

Thanks AlphaOneSix! :)

 

 

Anyway, I will include MGRS and UTM grid, just in case. What is concerning me is that I must use Geo (Lat/Long) to MGRS converter in order to draw the grid, but I have no way to check is it precise enough. At least so far Geo (Lat/Long) grid looks precise.

 

S!

[shu77]

That pic above does look great.

[ThunderChief]

Honestly, is that a photo of a real A-10 or a screenshot of DCS?

[EtherealN]

Screenshot.

[macieksoft]

And i will brint this topic back in to life because i have question:

 

In whitch version of DCS:A-10C was this screenshoot in first post made?

On this screenshoot SADL screen looks like more realitic than is now.

 

Why ED previously made more realistic SADL then made it less realistic?

 

This datalink screenshoot looks clooser to real one: Here is real A-10C SADL MFD page (screenshoot from USAF website):

 

So i will repeat question: Why ED is making DCS:A-10C worse in next updates? Why current DCS:World A-10C module version 1.2.4 do not have realistic SADL screen while old versions of DCS:A-10C had realistic one?

 

Is ED thinking about restoring realistic TAD SADL pages?

Looks like files responsible for MA subpage (button to enter this page u can see on screenshoot) are still in avionics files.

Edited May 2, 2013 by macieksoft

[sobek]

And i will brint this topic back in to life because i have question:

 

In whitch version of DCS:A-10C was this screenshoot in first post made?

On this screenshoot SADL screen looks like more realitic than is now.

 

I don't see anything in that screen that isn't in there right now. What are you referring to specifically?

 

Why ED previously made more realistic SADL then made it less realistic?

 

This datalink screenshoot looks clooser to real one: Here is real A-10C SADL MFD page (screenshoot from USAF website):

 

So i will repeat question: Why ED is making DCS:A-10C worse in next updates? Why current DCS:World A-10C module version 1.2.4 do not have realistic SADL screen while old versions of DCS:A-10C had realistic one?

 

The stuff that is shown in that manual picture was never implemented. It requires much more in depth datalinking between units of several types (like AWACS, etc.), not only A-10s, which is not happening in DCS right now. Maybe this will be expanded once other jets with different datalinks join the fleet.

[macieksoft]

I don't see anything in that screen that isn't in there right now. What are you referring to specifically?

 

Can you see the MA button at OSB 8?

Can you see the GAT/AIR button at OSB 10?

 

Those buttons are on screenshoot from beta versions and on real A-10C screenshoot but in current versions there are no MA and GAT/AIR buttons.

Edited May 2, 2013 by macieksoft

[sobek]

Probably out of scope for the entertainment version.

[macieksoft]

Why they was removed? Any particular reason?

 

There still is a file responsible for MA page: DCS World\Mods\aircrafts\A-10C\Cockpit\Scripts\MFCD\indicator\TAD\MFCD_page_TAD_MA_TABLE.lua

 

So those features was not completly removed.

 

And what is entertaiment version? What this mean?

[Silver_Dragon]

legal restrictions military version vs entertainment version (Maverick laser guided or AN/ARC-210 radio suite has a example)

 

Professional clients (civilian or military) decide which equipment or system function ED is authorized (or banned) to put in an entertainment product under legal rights / secret, classified or patents.

Edited May 2, 2013 by Silver_Dragon

[macieksoft]

I think that user @igormk was not military user.

He looks like entertaiment version user aswell.

 

And i finally know why laser maverick was hidden.

Ok now i have a half-military version ;)

 

Now i only need to restore those datalink functions and i will have full military version ;)

Edited May 2, 2013 by macieksoft

[sobek]

I think that user @igormk was not military user.

He looks like entertaiment version user aswell.

 

Igor was once a beta test team member. The screenshot is from an alpha version that never went public. It was used simply as a promo shot when the A-10 was announced.

 

 

And i finally know why laser maverick was hidden.

Ok now i have a half-military version ;)

 

Not even close.

Edited May 2, 2013 by sobek

[macieksoft]

Ok can anyone of moderators give me a copy of files in DCS World\Mods\aircrafts\A-10C\Cockpit\Scripts\MFCD\indicator\TAD from that alpha version?

 

I know that those features are working, but are hidden like laser maverick.

[sobek]

Ok can anyone of moderators give me a copy of files in DCS World\Mods\aircrafts\A-10C\Cockpit\Scripts\MFCD\indicator\TAD from that alpha version?

 

No can do. Us civil users are not privy to that functionality.

[macieksoft]

But this functionality is not removed from civil version, its only hidden.

I think that now i must waste few hours to find one way to make MA page able to wiev.

[sobek]

But this functionality is not removed from civil version, its only hidden.

I think that now i must waste few hours to find one way to make MA page able to wiev.

 

You sure you want to announce breaking the EULA on the forum of the developer?

 

Edit: Just so we are clear, keep any EULA violations off of these boards.

Edited May 2, 2013 by sobek

[macieksoft]

EULA violations?

So SERVMAN violating EULA aswell, its editing .lua files too. So why there is a SERVMAN support on this forum?

 

And here is how aproximetly MA page should like (i not made it working, its just some kind of visualisation of one of .lua files in DCS i done only to see how it looks like in DCS):

 

 

Here is another vusualisation of TDL page:

 

And i say again, those are just unacurate visualisations of subpages implemented or half-implemented in DCS.

 

I think that TDL page not controlling EPLRS but something like link 16 or other system that using one of VHF or UHF aircraft radios to send and receive data.

 

And i not decompiled anything, so its not reverse engineering. I just used files included in DCS World A-10C module. Those files are not protected anyway, just like all other files on computer.

Edited May 3, 2013 by macieksoft