Flaming Cliff 2.0 System Requirments

[mayu22]

Hi. I have an Intel Q6700 @ 2.66GHz 4.0 GB DDR2 Memory and Nvidia GTX 280 Video card. I have noticed that when I play DCS: Black Shark with high settings when explosions or some graphic heavy thing take place the game frame rate drops. Since FC 2.0 is pretty much based on the Black Shark now, what would be the ultimate best computer system configuration to play with absolute no drop in frame rates. I am planning to make a new computer any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you.

[sobek]

Hi. I have an Intel Q6700 @ 2.66GHz 4.0 GB DDR2 Memory and Nvidia GTX 280 Video card. I have noticed that when I play DCS: Black Shark with high settings when explosions or some graphic heavy thing take place the game frame rate drops. Since FC 2.0 is pretty much based on the Black Shark now, what would be the ultimate best computer system configuration to play with absolute no drop in frame rates. I am planning to make a new computer any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Hey there, look down at the appropriate forum section (hardware, this thread is going to move there as well, i'm sure). In general, you want the fastest CPU that fits your budget, you only need high end graphics cards if you run at very high resolutions or with a lot of antialiasing and anisotropic filtering.

 

Your GTX280 is already well suited for Black Shark, only your CPU is on the low end. If you can afford it, go with an intel socket 1366 i7, those are the fastest CPUs with most memory bandwith ATM, however, they do not offer the best bang for the buck. Ponder a little through the hardware section, there's a wealth of info suited to your needs.

[Distiler]

Windows Vista or W7 is the biggest boost you can get if you have Windows XP (50% more fps)

[MadTommy]

configuration to play with absolute no drop in frame rates.

 

So much depends upon the mission you are playing... the fastest personal PCs available will still see a fps drop if the mission has too many objects and things happening on the map.

 

I am planning to make a new computer any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you.

 

Your PC from a hardware point of view should be fine to play both BS & LockOn at high settings. Maybe it is badly configured from a software angle?

 

If anything, maybe your CPU is the bottleneck. Your gfx card & ram should be more than enough.

[mayu22]

Thank you for you prompt reply. I am sorry for posting it here I thought its general post area people can ask generally anything. I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit Edition. I am Inclining towards i7 930@2.8 or the i7 975@3.33Ghz which is also the flag ship for right now of Intel extreme edition cpu's. I also wanted to know that if Lockon FC 2.0 will use all four cores to its max?

Edited March 19, 2010 by mayu22

[mayu22]

MadTommy, the thing is that I have a Dell XPS 700 with its original mother board. And its really a very bad mother board. Its so called an "Nvidia 590-SLI Chipset" but dell has put so much limits on it and bad BIOS that the highest CPU that I can put in it is the QX6800 Extreme Edition@2.9Ghz which I personally think will not boost the performance that much since I am already have the Q6700. I guess I can save money from the gfx card since it is good for right now and invest into a better CPU. Now what do you think would be good the i7-930@2.8Ghz or the i7 975@3.33Ghz?

[Distiler]

2 cores, like DCS.

[sinelnic]

CPU, and specifically CPU clock, is the key bottleneck for DCS. Tri OC'ing your CPU or if you're gonna invest, go for a new i7/i5 with the aim to OC it to +4GHz. Your GPU is right now laughing very hard at DCS.

[T-Bone]

Since the DCS engine is more optimized your performance should improve in 2.0. Also try turning the water to medium and using some framerate tweaks.

[Kuky]

Windows Vista or W7 is the biggest boost you can get if you have Windows XP (50% more fps)

 

I have done such test (exact same hardware but different OS only) and it is more around 10% increase Windows 7 vs XP. 50% is way exaggerated.

Edited March 20, 2010 by Kuky

[Distiler]

I have done such test (exact same hardware but different OS only) and it is more around 10% increase Windows 7 vs XP. 50% is way exaggerated.

 

I've done it too. Going from averages of 20fps to 30fps is 40-50% boost in my case. Don't look at higher fps (can be similar), it is the lower fps that get the big boost, so the average get's up.

 

I suppose it could change between machines, missions, etc.

[EtherealN]

Yeah, too many variables to predict that reliably - best to give it as a range like 10-50%. I think most machines will see something in the 10-20% range. What I would suspect (without knowing your hardware, Distiler) is that you got biggest boosts since your CPU was "on the edge", so to speak, already and therefore the Dx10/11 loadbalancing made a huge difference for you, while CPU's running at really high OC's (if memory serves Kuky's at 3.8GHz, but I might be wrong) don't have quite as big a need for those loadbalancing features.

 

It's a bit difficult to predict since I don't know the gritty details of what microthreading Dx10/11 actually gets to do and it's specific proceedures. So in the end: 10-50%, depending on hardware/software combo, with median around 20. Still a boost that is hard to get any other way, and with an OC'd CPU it stacks up beautifully. :)

[*Rage*]

Just watching some of the training videos and noticed very smooth gameplay but a few stutters here and there. If you watch the Su27 RWR tutorial you'll see what I mean when Matt scores the kill on the fighter at the end. Stutter at missile impact and fighter fragmentation then smooth again. IIRC matt has a very high spec system.

 

Anything we can do to help prevent/limit that?

[EtherealN]

One possible solution would be to run a non-beta build. ;)

 

Though I've no clue what the issue with stutters might be in current builds. Usually the stutters have been hard to track down for those that have experienced them in DCS:BS - it's not just a matter of how "good" the computer is, it might be anything from drivers or a bad sATA cable to just pure bad luck in HDD reader head placement. Preload into RAM might decrease the risk of such things of course, but at the severe cost of skyrocketing RAM requirements.

 

Until then, do remember that the videos are recorded on WIP builds.

[Nate--IRL--]

Just watching some of the training videos and noticed very smooth gameplay but a few stutters here and there. If you watch the Su27 RWR tutorial you'll see what I mean when Matt scores the kill on the fighter at the end. Stutter at missile impact and fighter fragmentation then smooth again. IIRC matt has a very high spec system.

 

Anything we can do to help prevent/limit that?

 

I've noticed that sort of explosion stutter happens once in any mission and then doesn't happen again in that mission. It is like it is being loaded in for the first time on the first explosion.

 

Nate

[*Rage*]

I've noticed that sort of explosion stutter happens once in any mission and then doesn't happen again in that mission. It is like it is being loaded in for the first time on the first explosion.

 

Nate

 

Hmm interesting...will test it out..

[Kuky]

I've done it too. Going from averages of 20fps to 30fps is 40-50% boost in my case. Don't look at higher fps (can be similar), it is the lower fps that get the big boost, so the average get's up.

 

I suppose it could change between machines, missions, etc.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=766566&postcount=2

I got 10% difference on average frame-rate (even in some cases minimum did not change) maybe it does vary from hardware to hardware

[Distiler]

Yes, I think the lower the computer perfomance per core, the higher the boost going from XP to Vista/7.

 

If a crap computer goes from 20 to 30 it means 50% boost

If a nice computer goes from 40 to 50 it means 25% boost

And so on.

 

But anyway, I suppose there are many other variables that can affect that. In anycase, that upgrade is like putting an new cpu in your computer.

Edited March 20, 2010 by Distiler

[Radar Rider]

I've noticed that sort of explosion stutter happens once in any mission and then doesn't happen again in that mission. It is like it is being loaded in for the first time on the first explosion.

 

Nate

 

That's right. And happens with flares and chaff too, and gun fire, and some other graphics since Flanker 2.0.

[Kuky]

Distiler, have you actually done proper test do check this or are you just estimating 20 to 30fps increase?

[RvEYoda]

I have compared a 2.66 GHz Corei7 vs 3.0 GHz Core2d, and the i7 seems to be

the clear winner. That is really the first thing I would look at.

Edited March 20, 2010 by =RvE=Yoda

[Boulund]

Lol=)