Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[Laud]

You guys are so pulling everything out of thin air :lol:

 

I thought that is the fun-part of this thread!?!

 

:D

[StageFright]

This may sound blasphemous to many of you out there...but DCS: X-Wing? or maybe DCS: TIE Intercepter? :D Thats my dream game...and I know it'll never happen so I'll just have to be sad forever. :mad: But maybe, just maybe...

 

I love my flight sims, but im with you. Lucas Arts needs to pull there heads out of there ass and put out another X-Wing game. With graphics today I drool at the thought of making a Death Star trench run. Sorry...off topic....but still:joystick:

[Scrobes]

I love my flight sims, but im with you. Lucas Arts needs to pull there heads out of there ass and put out another X-Wing game. With graphics today I drool at the thought of making a Death Star trench run. Sorry...off topic....but still:joystick:

 

Damn you! That sounds reaalllly good!

[Shinigami]

Well if we are asking the impossible way not DCS YF-27 Macross or More like DCS Gundam Kyrios:D

[Laud]

OMG - I'm caught right in the middle of Sci-Fi nerds...

And those are the guys talking about realistic simulations here!

 

:doh: :joystick: :D

 

:helpsmilie: *running*

[Villain]

F-22 raptor :)

[moonbeast]

Me personally, I reckon a AV8B or F/A18 C or E ?

 

Well thats what I'm drooling over anyway !!

[moonbeast]

ED fast jet support please

[Cowboy10uk]

OK then, Time to throw my thoughts into the matter, For myself, I would love either more Heli ops, Even utililty Helis, like the Puma or Chinook would be more than welcome, as I feel this is a area sadly lacking in flight sims, The feeling of Heli flight in BS was fantastic. If we do have to do fixed wing again so soon, Then it would be nice to fly something thats not been done that much before, which in my eyes Has to be the Harrier. Now the Uk goverment has decided to retire them, Which has to be one of the dumbest moves ever by any goverment by the way, It might be slightly easier for ED to get specs on it. Raptor is too new, so no way we could possible get a realistic sim of that.

 

Other than that, F14 would be great as last time I flew one it was in 94, or F18, Yes I know there is a great version on FSX and we have had a few sims about it, BUT Im sure ED would make a stunning version and of course we already have carriers in the sim.

 

F16 or 15, Well to be honest the 15 was pretty much done in Lomac, and there would be hugh pressure on Ed if they did a F16. I mean it is loved by all after Falcon 4. which of course the bar it would be judged at.

 

Hell lets be honest, does it even matter. After the great sims of BS and A10 that ED has provided us with, We know they could do a sim about a foam glider and we would buy it. :)

 

Whatever Ed decides my pre order is ready and waiting.

 

Cowboy10uk

[Jona33]

The puma would be good but I don't know if they're still going to be in service for much longer. THe chinook would be cool but for a heli it would have to be the UH-60 Black hawk or Merlin. If it was a fixed wing it won't be he harrier because it's retiring so it will probably be the F-18 of F-16 that would be next

[Shinigami]

MI-8 or MI-17 battle ready with all his rockets or bomb escorting troops or Medivac then with artillery support.

[DarkMellie]

I'm getting to my point, bear with me;

 

I remember buying Black Shark on release then returning it as I had no idea what was going on. Now, I've rediscovered it and am ridiculously addicted. That and A-10 (and LockOn Platinum which I purchased today) are, in addition to ArmA 2 and Rise of Flight, a real happy place for me to visit every day!

 

I also never thought I'd like Jet sims over my beautiful planes in Rise of Flight... I'd tried IL-2 1946, IL CoD (which still doesn't run properly for me) and Wings of Prey.. they were okay but didn't match the freedom of a biplane dogfight with TrackIR. But now, I do enjoy Jet sims courtesy of A-10C.

 

One thing I thought I'd DEFINITELY never enjoy was a helicopter sim. After trying a chopper out in FSX I just wasn't convinced that they were enjoyable. But now with BlackShark I'm completely hooked. My DCS wish would be a new combat chopper, they are just ridiculously satisfying to fly... especially when combined with weaponry... and a two-seater chopper would be the bomb. Imagine co-op with that?! Get to know both seats really well then take to the skies with a friend.

 

But that isn't going to happen I'm sure... there's so many jets out there that it will inevitably be a jet that's modelled next and here is my actual DCS wish... the F18. I don't know what the variations are, but that is the jet of my youth... in the 80's and early 90's all we knew about the tools or combat were M16 rifles (or machine guns as we called them) and the superb F-18.

[Jona33]

MI-8 or MI-17 battle ready with all his rockets or bomb escorting troops or Medivac then with artillery support.

 

Yeah that would be cool but since I'm British a Merlin or Chinook would probably be better.

[Shinigami]

Yeah that would be cool but since I'm British a Merlin or Chinook would probably be better.

 

I don't know if the tactic has changed but wen you have to medivac an artillery shot combs a way for the helix to ensure that no one with a Stinger, Igla or RPG is there,

 

That would be cool:thumbup:

[Jona33]

Yeah but what if they missed and hit the person you were trying to evac. But yeah that's still cool.

[JS]

I don't know if the tactic has changed but wen you have to medivac an artillery shot combs a way for the helix to ensure that no one with a Stinger, Igla or RPG is there,

 

That would be cool:thumbup:

 

That sounds really silly. First, the medevac would have to take place within range of friendly artillery. Second, how do you avoid hitting your own people? And finally, missiles like the Stinger or Igla have a range of several kilometers. Are you going to hit every square meter within several kilometers of the landing zone with artillery?

[Jona33]

? And finally, missiles like the Stinger or Igla have a range of several kilometers. Are you going to hit every square meter within several kilometers of the landing zone with artillery?

 

Who knows. It could be pretty cool watching you gotta admit.

[Frostiken]

F-14 Tomcat:

+ Carrier ops.

- Top Gun.

- Old, antiquated, and isn't Iran the only country who still uses them?

- Very little air/ground capability.

- Two-seater, not really possible as far as we know.

 

F-15C Eagle:

+ Best air/air fighter in the world.

+ Feasible in terms of available documentation and SMEs.

+ Good loiter time.

- "Not a pound for air to ground". DCS is mostly air/ground engagements and circling around looking for bandits would get old fast.

 

F-15E Strike Eagle:

+ Airframe has the biggest inventory of cool toys in the USAF.

+ One of the best air/ground tactical bombers, plus can do air/air stuff pretty well, making it a great fit for DCS.

+ Huge ordnance capacity and big fuel tanks.

- Unsure about classification level esp. with Suite 6.

- Mandatory two-seater, and not really possible as far as we know.

 

F-16 Fighting Falcon:

+ Versatile aircraft, capable of doing a little bit of everything.

+ SEAD / Wild Weasel msisions!

- Small fuel capacity and rather unimpressive ordenance load.

- Single-engine lawn dart :D

- Been done a billion times before. Don't need "yet another F-16 sim". Get FreeFalcon if you want an F-16 sim.

 

F/A-18 Superhornet:

+ Like the F-16, it's a versatile multi-role airframe.

+ Naval / carrier ops.

- Rather small payload and fuel capability.

 

F-22 Raptor:

+ Has never been done. Big 'cool' factor.

- Rather technologically limited right now since it went through so many cuts :/

- Rather small ordnance capacity. Take off, drop two JDAMS, return.

- Probably never going to happen due to how new it is and classification.

 

F-35 Lightening II:

+ Never been done before. Also 'cool'.

+ Versatile, perhaps VTOL capable.

+ Naval ops? :)

- Doesn't even really exist right now so therefore will not exist as a simulator. ED interviews pilots as SMEs, and right now there's almost no F-35 pilots.

[Villain]

^ Harrier? :)

[Shinigami]

That sounds really silly. First, the medevac would have to take place within range of friendly artillery. Second, how do you avoid hitting your own people? And finally, missiles like the Stinger or Igla have a range of several kilometers. Are you going to hit every square meter within several kilometers of the landing zone with artillery?

 

Wrong the Stinger and Igla has a limited distance 6,000 m (20,000 ft) for Igla and 4,500–4,800 m (14,800–15,700 ft) for Stinger.

 

Also the artillery has more range than any Stinger or Igla, and perhaps I explained bad but you pave a road with bomb for the Helix to pass over it ensuring that no one is there with a RPG or AAA, also if you know were is your troops you know were to shot at and when to stop, and after you get to the place for the medivac the artillery fires in barrier around the elzy to avoid enemy troops for getting in the zone.

 

And yes you can do this if the medivac is in range of the artillery, if not you have to use another tactic.

 

Shinigami Out...

[Jona33]

Frostiken, Good run through and everything but which aircraft do you actually want AND think DCS will be able to model.

[Haggart]

Only a despaired commander orders long range artillery barrage into a combat zone where own troups are in close combat with hostile forces. One breeze, and you won't need a medivac, but a priest. Thats the point where CAS enters the game - an "intelligent shell" connected to the ground troups, which is able to sort out hostile troups only a hundred meters away from your position (IF sparky on the ground is able to guide in the CAS precisely).

[Frostiken]

Frostiken, Good run through and everything but which aircraft do you actually want AND think DCS will be able to model.

 

I think all things considered the F/A-18 is the only single-seater option :/

 

I'd prefer the F-15E for a few reasons (ie: I already know how to do almost everything in it) and it has some cool toys, but I don't know how the two-seater would work. Janes did the F-15E a decade ago and it worked alright so I can't see it being too out of hand...

[oritpro]

How about modeling this?

The next generation of helicopters take flight

 

http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/the-next-generation-of-helicopters-take-flight-25027505

[Shinigami]

Only a despaired commander orders long range artillery barrage into a combat zone where own troups are in close combat with hostile forces. One breeze, and you won't need a medivac, but a priest. Thats the point where CAS enters the game - an "intelligent shell" connected to the ground troups, which is able to sort out hostile troups only a hundred meters away from your position (IF sparky on the ground is able to guide in the CAS precisely).

 

Well that's if you have (apuntador terrestre)ground aerial controller or is U.S. JTAC. I was talking wen a pilot is downed in the front lines of the combat area or in immediate area of enemy troops and belief me some times has happened that you have to shot over you own line or very close to avoid being overthrown by the enemy. If you doubt this google Cangamba Battle in Angola by Cuban troops against UNITA and South Africa (that's the one I know but I'm sure that there most be another examples). or I don't remember the name of the battle but was in WWII by the US in the Pacific islands.

 

Also remember that this is a tactic once used I don't say that is standard procedure, After all I'm not a tactician I'm only a engineer student and a war fan.

Edited April 28, 2011 by Shinigami