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Granted, that does seem like a lot of work. But going from the A-10 to the F-18 should be a smaller step than from BS to A-10. Many things are similar and they share use of many same weapons and functions.

With that in mind, I'd be surprised if the development time was longer than for the above-mentioned games.

However I'm only speculating - I'm not too knowledgeable about the game's engine.

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That's not correct. A few things might be easier or quicker, but in general it is no small step at all.

 

Many things are similar and they share use of many same weapons and functions.

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@Alfa,

 

I agree with the fact that some of these things are problems currently, but look at Black Shark and A-10C. If they can COMPLETELY redo an entire flight model from a helicopter to a fixed wing airplane...

 

Eh... :D .

 

What does the flight model of the Ka-50 have to do with that of the A-10?. I don't doubt that Eagle could develop a proper flight model for an F-18 given the required documentation being available and I don't doubt...

 

...why couldn't they add in something like physics for the water/carrier to add a little dipping up and down. Or add a new theater (i.e. like Nevada for A-10C) for the carrier to exist in?

 

....that they could develop a more sophisticated dynamic sea, build a new theater for carrier ops or any of the other things I mentioned. But if you read my previous post again, you will see that I said: "not impossible but improbable" due to development time ;) .

 

No offense, but I don't think you realise just how much work is involved for each of these items, not to mention the effort required for all of it combined(!).

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@Alfa

 

Granted, that does seem like a lot of work. But going from the A-10 to the F-18 should be a smaller step than from BS to A-10.

 

Again I don't really see the connection - it sounds like you guys think ED is a dedicated heli-sim developer or something and that making a fixed wing module was a completely new experience to them.....if anything its the other way around.

 

In regards to "going from A-10 to F-18" there are two main things to consider - First what I said about the F-18 being "a very complex aircraft to model" I would consider the understatement of the year.....there is a world of difference between an A-10(including new C version) and a Hornet.

 

Many things are similar and they share use of many same weapons and functions.

 

What about multi-functional radar with air-to-surface modes, RWS, ECM, use of Harpoon and Harm missiles?

 

Secondly the A-10C is a CAS aircraft and as such is in line with the focus already pursued in both Lock-on FC(with the Su-25T) and Black Shark - i.e. the environment for this(map expansion/fidelity, ground units models/armament etc) has been steadily improved and expanded over 3 separate releases now, while the naval environment has been all but dead in the water(pun intended) in the meantime.

 

With that in mind, I'd be surprised if the development time was longer than for the above-mentioned games.

 

Yes then I think you would indeed be surprised(!) :D

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I was merely referencing Black Shark to A-10C because the two aircraft and modules are VERY different.

 

You made the point that it's highly unlikely that they would have the development time to consider the F-18 as their next module, I'm saying it's not.

 

Not ONLY the flight model in A-10C (was completely new) but the weapons:(guided bombs, dumb bombs, GAU-8, Air-to-air missiles, mavericks, etc.) THEN-- JTAC, Targeting computer, A-10C nav computer, I can go on and on about the different things they've implemented into A-10C that wasn't in Black Shark.

 

That was my point.

 

So a carrier and an F-18 avionics and flight model? Yeah, so?

 

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If they're doing the F-18E, it should become a joint op with VRS because their F-18E is simply incredible but fsx doesnt give them a whole lot to work with... as in scenary and the limits with A-A and A-G engagements...so together with the DCS environment that would be awe inpiring..just my two cents

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...there is the whole debacle about the Black Sea itself being an improbable location for carrier operations.

 

Solution: extend the Black Sea map to include part of the Aegean Sea. Having so many little islands, this would certainly be an interesting environment for naval operations and the F-18. I realize this is a lot more work than I make it sound, but I'm sure a lot of people would prefer extensions of the existing Black sea map (Such as with Warthog) over creating another small map somewhere else. Its nice to be able to perform long ferry flights now and then.

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yeah and look at all the F15 screenshots on the A-10c release installer, think ED gave an obvious hint there.

 

Also if you haven't noticed already the F15 AI model is highly detailed compared to to the other fixed wing aircraft so that's gotta say something :D

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I like to think of it in a positive light: If the next module is not the Eagle, then not only do we have two beautiful Eagle models to fly along side of, we get yet another highly detailed aircraft to admire.

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I don't see why they need to keep it secret. If they have already started working on the next module, why not just tell us what aircraft it is?

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Or..... AV-8B.

 

Any new .... I will buy it for sure :) from ED!

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I'm probably pissing in the wind here, but since its an issue often on my mind I'd like to state my interest in a modern multirole jet such as the Block 50/52 F-16C or an F/A-18E. Basically as long as its a comprehensively multirole aircraft with all-weather & day/night capability, I'm not too concerned whether it is American, Russian, European or Chinese. As for the notion of carrier ops being needed for the F/A-18, as much as I'd be fascinated by the notion I agree that it is not necessary as many nations utilise the aircraft without carriers. Us Australians included.

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F18 will be SO GREAT ! I cant wait for it :-)

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F-22 would leave us all slack jawed. I'd do a happy dance that would have my family watching me cautiously for weeks.

It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm

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Just put a tailhook on the F-22 and I will be happy. Until then... F-18, F-35 C, and Rafale M top my list!

 

(ok, you know I think F-22 would be awesome anyway)

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Checking the Forums, interviews and such... I would say is the F15E. The amount of screenies shown on the A10C Installer was interesting... like giving us a clue of what is coming.

 

F-15E or F/A-18E or F...for me would be awesome...I would pay for them...or all of them at once.

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Any news? Matt told about this information after premiere of DCS A-10C, so we're waiting.

 

I hope, it will be AV-8B :D

 

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I think that the best option is the F/A-18E due to his multirole tasking and modernity(not so with the F-14 or Harrier), another point of interest would be its carrier ops ,but since already it has been mentioned previously,the chance of embarked operations isn`t very high on the current DCS scenery, by the limitations that have US aircraft carriers to operate in the Black Sea (see Montreux convention, 1936).

 

In this aspect, my suggestion -as already VincentLaw commented- maybe in the extension of the map or area of operations to south up to covering part of the oriental Mediterranean, thereby opening the way for numerous possibilities of campaign, because then we would dispose of new airbases on Turkey like Incirklik, Batman or Izmir, or the island of Cyprus with Akrotiri to recreate a full conflict on Caucasus, also that this area would be a perfect place of operations for US 6th Fleet CVNs against either caucasus or or a fictional conflict with Syria or Iran.

 

I know that an extension of this magnitude would be a huge job, but the vast inland regions of Turkey, for example, not requires a high level of detail as it is now Georgia; I limited to only the geographical detail and improve cities, transportation lines and major airbases; after that, the big step would be to recreate the scenes of Syria and Iran, but that's another story ... another dream:megalol:

 

excuse me for my bad English is not my native language...:huh:

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