kingneptune117 Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Im thinking about getting an i5-750 and want to know if the A-10C will take full advantage of its four cores. I refuse to buy a dual core though. All other video games support multi cores so its still worth it to buy a quad core. "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci Intel i7-4790k | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo heat sink | Thermaltake Core V71 case | 750W EVGA PSU | 8gb G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 RAM | MSI Z97 Gaming 5 LGA 1150 motherboard | Samsung SSD | ASUS STRIX GTX 970 | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | TIR 5 | Razer Deathadder | Corsair K70
Distiler Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 All other video games support multi cores so its still worth it to buy a quad core. LOL. Only like 20-30 games are really multithreaded, and many of them with just 2 threads. FC2 sound engine is multithread (2 threads) and directx11 helps multithreading so in a limited way like FC2, yes it will be. AMD Ryzen 1400 // 16 GB DDR4 2933Mhz // Nvidia 1060 6GB // W10 64bit // Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2
kingneptune117 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Posted April 13, 2010 LOL. Only like 20-30 games are really multithreaded, and many of them with just 2 threads. FC2 sound engine is multithread (2 threads) and directx11 helps multithreading so in a limited way like FC2, yes it will be. Im talking recent games such as Fallout 3 and Mass Effect 2 "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci Intel i7-4790k | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo heat sink | Thermaltake Core V71 case | 750W EVGA PSU | 8gb G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 RAM | MSI Z97 Gaming 5 LGA 1150 motherboard | Samsung SSD | ASUS STRIX GTX 970 | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | TIR 5 | Razer Deathadder | Corsair K70
herr_LaSk Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 I dont think they plan to support multithreading in this module. I belive it may be some time untill they do this, as it requires rather complex rewriting of the sim engine, or so I've heard.
EtherealN Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Most comparative tests I've seen on the topic show Fallout 3 specifically gaining almost zero performance from running on four cores compared to two - just like FC2. It has enough threads for it, but it just doesn't need it. Mass Effect 2 runs UnrealEngine 3.5. Do you know how much money was spent developing that? Do you know what would happen if ED spent the same amount of money? ;) Detailed information about A-10C will be released at a later date when it is closer to completion. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Distiler Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 (edited) Im talking recent games such as Fallout 3 and Mass Effect 2 And do you know how many cores at high load will those games use? mostly 2, or more but at an average or low load, like FC2/DCS does. That doesen't mean FC2/DCS can't be optimized for more cores, yes, it can and it probably will be in the future. Edited April 13, 2010 by Distiler AMD Ryzen 1400 // 16 GB DDR4 2933Mhz // Nvidia 1060 6GB // W10 64bit // Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2
MTFDarkEagle Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 *search button is your friend* However: get a quad core. I've had a significant difference from a AMD Athlon X2 7750+ Black Editon (dual core 2,7 ghz if IIRC) and the processor I have at this moment, which is a AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition (3,2 GHz). ** yey 200th post =D ** Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Panzertard Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 ... and only time will tell. We'll know when the product is released ;) The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning
kingneptune117 Posted April 14, 2010 Author Posted April 14, 2010 *search button is your friend* However: get a quad core. I've had a significant difference from a AMD Athlon X2 7750+ Black Editon (dual core 2,7 ghz if IIRC) and the processor I have at this moment, which is a AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition (3,2 GHz). ** yey 200th post =D ** Hey MTFDarkEagle can you tell me how you like the 955? Ive been so undecided between it and the i5 750. On one hand the 955 is cheap and seems like it has good performance, but on the other hand everyone says the 750 is better for different reasons but the LGA1156 socket it uses has no future in terms of new processors. I cant decide :( Im really worried about going with AMD just because, in my eyes, it seems like the big bad evil company who has super low prices but in reality the product is crap. I dont know why but thats just the impression ive gotten. Also the i5 750 is listed as 2.66ghz, but this is not overclocked at all. It can be overclocked as high as 4ghz with the right cooler. I heard AMD overclocks theirs before shipping so they can advertise a high clock speed. I HATE DECISIONS...ESPECIALLY EXPENSIVE ONES ARGHHHH!!! "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci Intel i7-4790k | Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo heat sink | Thermaltake Core V71 case | 750W EVGA PSU | 8gb G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 RAM | MSI Z97 Gaming 5 LGA 1150 motherboard | Samsung SSD | ASUS STRIX GTX 970 | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | TIR 5 | Razer Deathadder | Corsair K70
EtherealN Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 but the LGA1156 socket it uses has no future in terms of new processors. I cant decide :( Eh? It's the LGA775 that's easiest considered dead. 1156 is new and is getting new processors every month. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
funkee Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 I'm not gonna sopeculate about A10 engine, but i think i5-750 is a good choice (i7 860/920 even better tho). [sIGPIC]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6720/avatarpolishairforce.png[/sIGPIC] system specs: mobo: Gigabyte GA-P35DS4 rev 2.1, CPU: Intel C2D E8400@4GHz, GPU: Nvidia 8800GTS 512, RAM: Kingston HyperX 4x 1GB 1066MHz Dual Channel, HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F1 640 GB x2, sound: Realtek Azalia ALC889A + SB Audigy + Dolby Digital/DTS external encoder/tuner, display: Asus VW222U 22', case: Raidmax Smilodon, headphones: Sennheiser HD650, stick: Saitek Cyborg Evo, Track IR4 Pro + TrackClip Pro, O/S: Windows 7/Vista x64
YorZor Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 Most comparative tests I've seen on the topic show Fallout 3 specifically gaining almost zero performance from running on four cores compared to two - just like FC2. It has enough threads for it, but it just doesn't need it. Mass Effect 2 runs UnrealEngine 3.5. Do you know how much money was spent developing that? Do you know what would happen if ED spent the same amount of money? ;) Detailed information about A-10C will be released at a later date when it is closer to completion. Isn't that more or less the mistake of the developers who wrote the game that they didn't write the game to make the maximum use of a cpu? And not the cpu ;) Even tho ME2 and FO3 will proberly be limited by the GFX card instead of cpu power unlike simulation games.
sobek Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 Even tho ME2 and FO3 will proberly be limited by the GFX card instead of cpu power unlike simulation games. Bad ED, now go develop generic shooters, you morons ;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
EtherealN Posted April 14, 2010 Posted April 14, 2010 Well YorZor, when you run "multithreaded game X" and find one core at constant 100% utilization and the other core weeving about at low utilization, you can draw certain conclusions. :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
MTFDarkEagle Posted April 15, 2010 Posted April 15, 2010 Hey MTFDarkEagle can you tell me how you like the 955? Ive been so undecided between it and the i5 750. On one hand the 955 is cheap and seems like it has good performance, but on the other hand everyone says the 750 is better for different reasons but the LGA1156 socket it uses has no future in terms of new processors. I cant decide :( Im really worried about going with AMD just because, in my eyes, it seems like the big bad evil company who has super low prices but in reality the product is crap. I dont know why but thats just the impression ive gotten. Also the i5 750 is listed as 2.66ghz, but this is not overclocked at all. It can be overclocked as high as 4ghz with the right cooler. I heard AMD overclocks theirs before shipping so they can advertise a high clock speed. I HATE DECISIONS...ESPECIALLY EXPENSIVE ONES ARGHHHH!!! Sure :-) I bought this processor for my birthday in september last year, and I loved it ever since. I got a HUGE performance boost in DCS: BS. and I mean a HUGE boost vs my old 7750+ amd. With the 7750 I managed around 20-30-40 (somewhat in that catagory..) With the 955, its in a different league.. 60+. With the same gfx at the time (8800gtx-oc (dont remember if I had it in SLI at the time... I did have it at one point, but I switched for a single gtx295-oc). AMD really hasn't got very expensive stuff, and it SURELY isnt crap. Far from it. The processor is very fast and very easy to overclock (still working on it). On a side note I must say the stock heatsink and fan are reasonable, but I would opt for a aftermarket one if you start to overclock. Right now the CPU is about 45 degrees C. In gaming it can reach to about 60- to perhaps 70 C. I'm going to buy a Cooler Master Hyper N520 CPU cooler soon, and I will report how the cooling is on that one. But for sure: the 955 is a very very very good processor and certainly worth the money. Hope this helps :-) Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
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