Lucid484 Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Ok I'm getting issues again after a while of it workign ok....but randomly and quite often during flight the game will freeze for like 10-15 seconds and then assuming I havent crashed into the ground it resumes fine. once I alt tabbed out during it and saw an error message stating "Display driver amd has stopped working and has recovered?" ...ALOT of ati users seem to have gotten a message liek this at some point on various games/systems. but for me this is the only program I ever have an issue with...I can do all sorts of intensive stuff all day but as soon as I pay lockon it freezes. Heres my system specs...its more tha adequete for it. ASUS Rampage II Extreme mobo Intel Core i7 930 6 gig Mushkin ddr3-1600 running at ddrr3-1066 Crucial C300 128gb SATA 3 drive 500 gig data drive Antec true power 750 PSU Antec 1200 case Thermalright Venemous X cooler my idle temps are mid 20's-low 30's and load temps are mid 30's to low 40's Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
EtherealN Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Sorry sir, but you have a display driver issue yet you didn't include your graphics card in your information... That's way more important than what cooler you have. ;) Since it's an AMD display driver I assume it's an ATI card though. First steps would be to shut off Catalyst AI, second step would be to change to a different version of the driver suite. Copy-pasting the details of the crash and recovery from the event viewer might also furnish some information leading to a solution. This link will offer some information on helping us help you: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=52089 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Lucid484 Posted May 14, 2010 Author Posted May 14, 2010 LOL missed the most important part! it's an XFX Radeon 5870 Ive tried 4 different versions of catalyst I've also tried just instaliing the drivers with no catalyst. not sure if i'll get into any playing tonight...but soon as I do I'll clear all my event and error logs before I start FC2 and give you guys a copy of exactly whats happeneing. also my dxdiag comes back no problems. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
EtherealN Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 That it comes back without problems listed doesn't necessarily mean that there are no problems. Might be stuff hidden in the device and driver lists that hide secrets as well. No hurt in having a look. Also, is that Win7 or Vista? Is Aero on? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Lucid484 Posted May 14, 2010 Author Posted May 14, 2010 Windows 7 64bit Pro and yes aero is on..I can try it with it off too. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Lucid484 Posted May 14, 2010 Author Posted May 14, 2010 Just loaded up real quick with aero off and froze twice in 5 minutes of play. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
raolguio Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) It is a 2D-3D clock speed transition problem with ATI cards. you need to create a profile in catalyst to increase 2D clock speed. search in googlre how to do it..... I had the same problem with a HD5850. hopefully it helps you. Also, update to catalyst 10.4 at least Edited May 14, 2010 by raolguio
Lucid484 Posted May 14, 2010 Author Posted May 14, 2010 I'll give that a shot. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Lucid484 Posted May 14, 2010 Author Posted May 14, 2010 EtherealN here are some logs ...I just crashed 4 times in one flight. FC2 Error log: 2010/5/14 10:48 V810271318 World::LoadPlugins: Loaded plugin module CockpitBase.dll Dispatcher: initial random seed = 8497983 Dispatcher: apply random seed = 8497983 Cosmos: Mission date assigned - Year:2009, Month:6, Day:1 loaded from mission Scripts/World/GPS_GNSS.lua loaded from mission Config/View/SnapViewsDefault.lua loaded from mission Config/View/SnapViews.lua loaded from mission Config/View/View.lua loaded from mission Config/View/Server.lua Map objects for inactive beacon site Мыс Айтодорский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for beacon site Ялта NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for inactive beacon site Мыс Кыз-Аул NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for inactive beacon site Мыс Сухумский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for beacon site Мыс Евпаторийский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for inactive beacon site Мыс Тарханкутский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for inactive beacon site Мыс Железный Рог NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for beacon site Мыс Херсонесский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for beacon site Потийский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for inactive beacon site Мыс Анапский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for beacon site Батумский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. Map objects for inactive beacon site Мыс Кодошский NOT FOUND! Ojbects created. ComplexTask::open_state(). Precached tasks data loading. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Follow_Line" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Follow_Vector" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Follow_Vector_Old" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Approach" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Cannon_Ground_Attack" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Rocket_Attack" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Level_Bombing" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Dive_Bombing" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Missile_Ground_Target_Attack" task data loaded. ComplexTask::load_task_data(). "Missile_Ground_Target_Level_Attack" task data loaded. WARNING: multiple connectors "smoke" in model ".\Bazar\Terrain\Structures\High\TEC_A.lom" loaded from mission Scripts/Aircrafts/_Common/CustomHuman.lua 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source 20100514 104820 ERROR SOUND: source_is_playing(-1): invalid source Dispatcher::Can't execute Lua file Scripts/Aircrafts/a-10a/Cockpit/device_init.lua - cannot open Scripts/Aircrafts/a-10a/Cockpit/device_init.lua: No such file or directory loaded from mission Scripts/Aircrafts/_Common/birds.lua wObjectClassifier: unknown object array "Other armed ships" wObjectClassifier: unknown object array "Other armed ships" Windows Error Logs: Got 4 of these....1 for each freeze I had. "A request to disable the Desktop Window Manager was made by process (4)" And 4 of the ones I sent you before "Display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and has successfully recovered." And 4 more windows desktop manager errors "The Desktop Window Manager was unable to start because composition was disabled by a running application" Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Lucid484 Posted May 16, 2010 Author Posted May 16, 2010 Anyone get anything from that FC error log? Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Fahhh Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 You may also give a go with other games. This sounds like suspiciously like a hardware problem, or card instability. I get these when I've overclocked it too much. You haven't mentioned overclocking so I assume you haven't, but if the problem persists in other games, you may just have received a faulty card, that you should replace...
JLZ Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 You can press Pause/Break or Escape on keyboard to pause game until you deal with VPU Recovery. At least, plane won't crash. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Sabre-TLA Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Is there anything in the Event Viewer? MapleFlagMissions - Read Our Blog for Updates
Lucid484 Posted May 16, 2010 Author Posted May 16, 2010 yeah the event viewer is just those erros I posted....nothing for FC2 Specifically....I'm running everything stock. I have many other newer/older games on this system and everything runs 100% rock solid....This is the only game giving me any trouble. Just really frustrating as I want to fly again lol. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Sabre-TLA Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Ok. Googled and found this reference. It might help: http://www.vistax64.com/vista-general/79992-application-keeps-sending-request-disable-desktop-window-manage.html I know it's for vista but I would expect it might happen in Windows 7 too. MapleFlagMissions - Read Our Blog for Updates
Lucid484 Posted May 17, 2010 Author Posted May 17, 2010 No go..i tried the disable desktop composition trick and same problem. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Oneway Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 It is a 2D-3D clock speed transition problem with ATI cards. you need to create a profile in catalyst to increase 2D clock speed. search in googlre how to do it..... I had the same problem with a HD5850. hopefully it helps you. Also, update to catalyst 10.4 at least I am scratching my head on this one... I am running a 5870 W7x64 and my Cat version is 2010.0302.2233.40412 What version of what are you talking about? By the way, I too am having this same problem of screen freeze from time to time for periods ranging from 3-8 seconds...which is an eternity if your nose down and turning... Oneway
EtherealN Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Catalyst is typically released once a month, with the versioning being year+month, so "10.4" would be the version released in April of 2010. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Lucid484 Posted May 18, 2010 Author Posted May 18, 2010 At least I'm not the only one with the problem...ive tried catalyst 10.1-10.4 ive tried not even installing CCC and just the display drivers! I have the same vid card/OS as you also. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Design Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 Are you mixing English FC2 with Russian patch or similar? Carlos "Design" Pastor AMD64x2 5200+, 4GB DDR2, Asus M2V, Nvidia Geforce GTX260, Win7 x64
PoleCat Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 I would run a memtest. Even if all seems good with other games. If overclocked bring it back to stock. Just to be sure. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
Lucid484 Posted May 18, 2010 Author Posted May 18, 2010 Are you mixing English FC2 with Russian patch or similar? negative...english version with english patches. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Lucid484 Posted May 18, 2010 Author Posted May 18, 2010 I would run a memtest. Even if all seems good with other games. If overclocked bring it back to stock. Just to be sure. Out did that also..running stock, ran memtest came back 0 errors...I'll run it again just to make sure. Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
Oneway Posted May 18, 2010 Posted May 18, 2010 I am scratching my head on this one... I am running a 5870 W7x64 and my Cat version is 2010.0302.2233.40412 What version of what are you talking about? By the way, I too am having this same problem of screen freeze from time to time for periods ranging from 3-8 seconds...which is an eternity if your nose down and turning... Oneway I am not typically in the habit of quoting my own posts...but...it struck me that this typically happens when you are nose down and turning... Which just so happens to be concurrent with a heavy graphics load as the land scenery is both panning and zooming from a first person perspective... This would dovetail with the idea/notion that it is indeed related to graphics cards/graphics processing... Oneway Out
Lucid484 Posted May 20, 2010 Author Posted May 20, 2010 I am not typically in the habit of quoting my own posts...but...it struck me that this typically happens when you are nose down and turning... Which just so happens to be concurrent with a heavy graphics load as the land scenery is both panning and zooming from a first person perspective... This would dovetail with the idea/notion that it is indeed related to graphics cards/graphics processing... Oneway Out Yeah but why with just this one game? it makes no sense! I just want to fly again =*( Core i7-930 (2.8 OC to 3.85), ASUS Rampage II Extreme, XFX Radeon 5870, 6 Gigs MUSHKIN DDR3-1600 6-8-6-24, 128 GB Crucial C300 SSD, 500 GB Western 5400rpm Digital Green Drive,ASUS SATA 3 6gbps card.
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