have I improved

[71st_Mastiff]

works for me.

 

Not any point in going there if the registration is broken.

 

 

 

Please come back when you folks get it fixed, I would be interested to see the site.;)

[aairon]

works for me.

 

What browser do you use? I will try IE now.

[71st_Mastiff]

i.e 8

 

What browser do you use? I will try IE now.

[WH_Boomer]

Not any point in going there if the registration is broken.

 

 

I'm pretty sure you're not talking about the War Hawks website. The Recruitment page is still working fine. Automatic registration is turned off on our website. Take a look at the About Us page and see if what we have to offer is what you're looking for. We're really not set up to be a public forum.

 

Not trying to turn this into a recruitment thread, just want to make sure people don't spread bad information.

 

Ohh and BTW 104th, we really appreciate you're hosting our Blackshark Cockpit Trainer It's the best recruitment tool we could offer.

[Frazer]

What browser do you use? I will try IE now.

The link works @ my FireFox

 

Flying sims since 1980

I wasn't even born back then :D You must have seen one crazy development of the sims over the years. Man, for that matter, I can't wait till i'm 50 and see how the sims are like then :smilewink:

[aairon]

I'm pretty sure you're not talking about the War Hawks website. The Recruitment page is still working fine. Automatic registration is turned off on our website. Take a look at the About Us page and see if what we have to offer is what you're looking for. We're really not set up to be a public forum.

 

Not trying to turn this into a recruitment thread, just want to make sure people don't spread bad information.

 

Ohh and BTW 104th, we really appreciate you're hosting our Blackshark Cockpit Trainer It's the best recruitment tool we could offer.

 

I guess that explains what I at first thought was a slightly rude comment, I now better understand.

 

I will not join anything that has a registration page and then won't let me register lol.

Very weird to me, As the other poster said best of luck to you.

 

I have no idea now what your post is about, you can't be serious about recruiting people lol.

[aairon]

You say you're not trying to recruit yet you want to send me to a recruiting page without letting me into your forums? Sorry but that doesn't fly with me.

[aairon]

The link works @ my FireFox

 

 

I wasn't even born back then :D You must have seen one crazy development of the Sims over the years. Man, for that matter, I can't wait till I'm 50 and see how the sims are like then :smilewink:

In 1980 I was working for a japanese electronics company, they made ham radio equipment at the time, but now much more, (ICOM America) in bellevue, Washington, About five miles from where Microsoft headquarters is now.

The Radio Shack trs-80 had been out for a couple of years, and one of the other techs at work bought his in to play with and show off.

We were working on a project that needed a 2716 EPROM to be programmed, and heard of some guys who had a programmer down the road.

They were in a small office suite about 800 sq ft max one of those guys was a Kid named Bill Gates.

Anyway they burned the info into the EPROM for us and it needed changing often, so the guy who happened to own the trs-80 was the one who kept taking it to them, this is when we erased it with a uv light.

He was always coming back and telling me that these guys were making programs, and one day around late 80 or early 81, he came back with a 5 1/4 floppy and plugged it in, and told me that it would knock my socks off.

It was the first version of what was to become MS flight simulator, you had to have a very good imagination to see anything that resembles a runway, but at that time the big thing that impressed us was the fact that it modeled a real aircraft.

Little did we imagine what would transpire over these years.

It's funny to even think about what we would have said had someone come along and told us that we could do what we are doing with a desk top computer today.

 

Well I hope my little story doesn't bore you to death, lol listening to old folks.

Edited August 12, 2010 by aairon

[aairon]

works for me.

So you click register and you get a page to enter your info?

[Frazer]

In 1980 I was working for a japanese electronics company, they made ham radio equipment at the time, but now much more, (ICOM America) in bellevue, Washington, About five miles from where Microsoft headquarters is now.

The Radio Shack trs-80 had been out for a couple of years, and one of the other techs at work bought his in to play with and show off.

We were working on a project that needed a 2716 EPROM to be programmed, and heard of some guys who had a programmer down the road.

They were in a small office suite about 800 sq ft max one of those guys was a Kid named Bill Gates.

Anyway they burned the info into the EPROM for us and it needed changing often, so the guy who happened to own the trs-80 was the one who kept taking it to them, this is when we erased it with a uv light.

He was always coming back and telling me that these guys were making programs, and one day around late 80 or early 81, he came back with a 5 1/4 floppy and plugged it in, and told me that it would knock my socks off.

It was the first version of what was to become MS flight simulator, you had to have a very good imagination to see anything that resembles a runway, but at that time the big thing that impressed us was the fact that it modeled a real aircraft.

Little did we imagine what would transpire over these years.

It's funny to even think about what we would have said had someone come along and told us that we could do what we are doing with a desk top computer today.

 

Well I hope my little story doesn't bore you to death, lol listening to old folks.

 

Well, I can't speak for others but to me it is interesting :)

After all, this is where it all started. Thanks for sharing!

[aairon]

Well, I can't speak for others but to me it is interesting :)

After all, this is where it all started. Thanks for sharing!

 

The guy who handed my friend the disk was a guy named Bruce Artwick.

He was a student at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, (this is why all early MS flight sims had Miegs field(destroyed, and now a park) as the default) He had a small company and wanted to sell the program to Bill G, But at the Time Bill G was working on getting the first DOS out.

He later hooked up with Bruce who named his company SubLogic.

There was no microsoft back then, I'm not exactly sure when they got the name.

This was at the time that rights to software were being sold for under $10,000, I would guess had Bill jumped on it early he could have gotten the right to FS for a few thousand if that much.

Edited August 12, 2010 by aairon

[71st_Mastiff]

Yes just to join them on coms ya don't need all that though.

 

So you click register and you get a page to enter your info?

[Speed]

Might be a little late, but I finally remembered that you guys wanted the track from that flight. I just tried to, but it's 60Mb, so I guess I WON'T be uploading it (limit is 5Mb).

 

Anyway, Aairon, my squad, the 16th, is always looking for new members. However, I offer no obligation training, so if you want to, I could instruct you basically for free- you would have no obligation to join the 16th. I've still got a few more weeks before graduate courses begin again. You can PM me if you are interested.

Edited August 13, 2010 by Speed

[aairon]

You are a god send I am just off a mission and I am learning old bad habits about tossing this thing sideways and listening to the warning alerts but I am able to throw it around and get some major hits, after wTCHING THE VIDEOS i CAN SEE HOW THIS IS BOTH A DELICATE MACHINE AND IT'S A SLEDGE HAMMER. THOSE WHO DOUBT IS AS BEING INSIGNIFICANT IN ANY CONFLICT HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE WRONG SIDE .

[Heli Shed]

I'm pretty sure you're not talking about the War Hawks website. The Recruitment page is still working fine. Automatic registration is turned off on our website. Take a look at the About Us page and see if what we have to offer is what you're looking for. We're really not set up to be a public forum.

 

Not trying to turn this into a recruitment thread, just want to make sure people don't spread bad information.

 

Ohh and BTW 104th, we really appreciate you're hosting our Blackshark Cockpit Trainer It's the best recruitment tool we could offer.

 

It is indeed an excellent tool and one that we have publicly promoted quite rightly for the right reasons. No need to thank us, it is an honour. We hope to accept some more of your members to 'attempt' our training academy. Never know, you may be able to accept back a member who actually gets passed the UPT?

 

Regards and good luck

 

'T'

[Heli Shed]

how the critic's come out when they don't want ya anymore? :thumbup: :music_whistling:

 

Don't expect to get credit when you don't want your members posting on the forums. :music_whistling:

 

No comment.

[71st_Mastiff]

No Comment :smilewink:

Edited August 13, 2010 by Mastiff

[WH_Boomer]

We hope to accept some more of your members to 'attempt' our training academy. Never know, you may be able to accept back a member who actually gets passed the UPT?

 

And that's the difference between the War Hawks and the 104th. You've built an "Academy" that folks must watch a video and then copy what they see, while we've built a community where we all enjoy a variety of sims. Our focus is on teamwork and enjoyment not rote memorization.

 

Apples and oranges if you ask me. :smilewink:

[Heli Shed]

And that's the difference between the War Hawks and the 104th. You've built an "Academy" that folks must watch a video and then copy what they see, while we've built a community where we all enjoy a variety of sims. Our focus is on teamwork and enjoyment not rote memorization.

 

Apples and oranges if you ask me. :smilewink:

 

I'm afraid you have been misinformed Boomer. The Academy is certainly not a one way 'memorisation' of flight techniques. There are 4 sections - UPT, AFT, NAV and ENG modules totalling 15. There are also 5 live training modules which are conducted in groups with an FI. The module packages contain documentation, workflows, videos and mission files. The videos are narrated and the de-briefs conducted by 2 Squadron Leaders and an FI. The 104th is probably one of the largest communities around with regards to FC 2 and DCS and is growing daily. We pride ourselves on teamwork and our social skills. It is impossible to pass the academy unless you are willing to work in a team and learn what your part in the team is. The Training Modules are backed up by practicial implementation during training on our Training server.

 

To date, we have not found a Training Academy as thorough as our own with the standard it has. It is hard. 86% failure rate To be exact. But then again it is not for beginners.

 

Wishing you well and absolutely no malice - good louck with your own academy. We are only too willing to help or advise.

 

Regards

 

'T'

[Eries]

To date, we have not found a Training Academy as thorough as our own with the standard it has. It is hard. 86% failure rate To be exact. But then again it is not for beginners.

 

 

 

Regards

 

'T'

 

Well, you know the old saying...

 

" There's no such thing as a bad student , only bad teachers. "

 

That failure rate is immense. Perhaps your program is not all that you think

its cracked up to be.

[Heli Shed]

Well, you know the old saying...

 

" There's no such thing as a bad student , only bad teachers. "

 

That failure rate is immense. Perhaps your program is not all that you think

its cracked up to be.

 

Thank you for your comment.

 

The 86% is the failure rate of those who apply to the academy who do NOT make it pass UPT. UPT 1-3 is our 'start standard' for the general public to meet. It is from passing these that Kadetship is invited and access to the remainder of the academy is granted. All those who have made it into the academy have passed or are still studying. It takes approx 3 months.

 

We don't teach anything during UPT. Thats for the recruit to prove to us, that he can produce a certain level of skill. Here's the thing - UPT is not that hard! You would be surprised by the amount of people who think they can fly the shark, but actually, have no idea what they are doing. At all.

 

Once the Kadet is in the academy, he is given as much encouragement, 1-1 tuition and opportunities to integrate and fly as part of a wing as is practically possible. Upon passing the remaining 12 modules, the 5 live modules and a 45 minute Assessment conducted live, online and with approx 30 people watching, If he passes, he is then invited to take a position as a winged and full member of the 104th.

 

Not as good as we thought? On the contrary, it is exactly what we wanted. Those that cannot meet a pre-requisite of basic standards and skills, do not progress further in the academy. That........is 86%.

 

Our winged BlackShark members and even those that are in the academy at the present are some of the ED Testers and respected senior members of the community, It is an honour to have them as Kadets. Their standard in the cockpit and skills in Flight, Navigation and Engagement are second to none and they continue to gravitate toward Elite status.

 

We don't want ordinary, normal or basic level, we want Elite, and that.......is what seperates us from most others. We attain that status and have a bloody good laugh on route. Work Hard play hard.

 

Wanna Try? You know where to find us.

[Steel Jaw]

Can't be a whole lot of folks who can meet your standards for flying the BS...she's beast. ;)

[Heli Shed]

Can't be a whole lot of folks who can meet your standards for flying the BS...she's beast. ;)

 

:thumbup:

 

Well sure, Elite isn't for everybody. So far, 4 have passed with a further 9 in the academy, of which 3 are expected to take their final assessment within the next 3 weeks. 44 have applied, 13 got in. over 1000 tracks marked by 2 SL's and one FI.:book:

 

Competition and selection breeds excellence.;)

 

She is a bit of a beast, for sure, but when you know where to 'tickle' and how often, she's a big pussycat!

 

Thanks.

 

'T'

[GGTharos]

Sounds like you think real air forces have poor teachers. AFAIK their failures might in fact be larger.

 

We do something similar in the 44th, and so far, most people are unable to make a few nav turns while holding speed and altitude. Really, is that, plus learning a landing pattern too much to ask for for entry?

 

Let's face it ... the majority of people who play these games and plain poor pilots, and they really do not care to be any better. All they want to do is lob a bunch of missiles in a particular direction and count-up the score.

 

Flying? That's for - oh wait ...

 

See the point? We appreciate people who can learn to do things right and relatively quickly, because we'd rather get that done with and move on to less routine things.

 

An yes, those basic flying skills DO end up being quite important.

 

Tyger has made an awesome training programme for the 104th's Black Shark wing, and he has made it the way it actually should be.

 

If you don't qualify, you ... don't qualify.

 

Well, you know the old saying...

 

" There's no such thing as a bad student , only bad teachers. "

 

That failure rate is immense. Perhaps your program is not all that you think

its cracked up to be.

[Toadster]

Sounds like you think real air forces have poor teachers. AFAIK their failures might in fact be larger.

 

We do something similar in the 44th, and so far, most people are unable to make a few nav turns while holding speed and altitude. Really, is that, plus learning a landing pattern too much to ask for for entry?

 

Let's face it ... the majority of people who play these games and plain poor pilots, and they really do not care to be any better. All they want to do is lob a bunch of missiles in a particular direction and count-up the score.

 

Flying? That's for - oh wait ...

 

See the point? We appreciate people who can learn to do things right and relatively quickly, because we'd rather get that done with and move on to less routine things.

 

An yes, those basic flying skills DO end up being quite important.

 

Tyger has made an awesome training programme for the 104th's Black Shark wing, and he has made it the way it actually should be.

 

If you don't qualify, you ... don't qualify.

 

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