dutchpilot Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Rapid, I see that you also use TrackIr. Does that work correctly with the new ATI drivers? On the Naturalpoint forum it is mentioned already for months that ATI drivers after 10.3 are not compatible with TrackIr 5 software. Because of that I did not update my video drivers for some time. i5-4690K@3.5GHz, 16GB, Asus Maximus VII hero, GTX 970 4Gb, Win 10 64bit, G15, TM Hotas Warthog, TM Cougar MFDs
rapid Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 Hi dutchpilot, im using the older drivers for TrackIR example 4.1 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Mustang Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) Catalyst 10.10D released, improved MLAA support https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/20307/1m/www2.ati.com/DRIVERS/hotfix/catalyst_10.10_hotfixes/catalyst_10.10d_hotfix_win7_nov1.exe edit: just been running GTA IV with MLAA on my recently purchased HD5770, wow it looks amazing and runs so smooth! To achieve this, i've been using a recent beta build of ATI Tray Tools http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3749726&postcount=3 Edited November 2, 2010 by Mustang 1
Axion Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Mustang, are these hotfixes designed to be installed over the original Catalyst drivers? Also in your opinion which software is better at managing profiles and settings, Tray Tools, CCC or RivaTuner? Thanks in advance, Ax. Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64
Mustang Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) Mustang, are these hotfixes designed to be installed over the original Catalyst drivers? Also in your opinion which software is better at managing profiles and settings, Tray Tools, CCC or RivaTuner? Thanks in advance, Ax. This driver is a standalone package, you need to uninstall any previous drivers first. Personally, i prefer ATT over the other software, as it's more lightweight, others may like CCC for the profiling and other stuff like Crossfire management etc. Oh, and Rivatuner is specific for nVidia cards, but it is useful since D3DOverrider is included (which works on all cards) edit: just for so you guys can see, this is how MLAA is used on my 5770 in ATT Edited November 2, 2010 by Mustang
Axion Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Cheers again Mustang, currently using D3DOverrider to enforce Vsync but I will give ATI Tray Tools a go to see if it will do the same. You've lost me on "Morphological filtering" - going to have to google that one! 1 Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64
Mustang Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Cheers again Mustang, currently using D3DOverrider to enforce Vsync but I will give ATI Tray Tools a go to see if it will do the same. You've lost me on "Morphological filtering" - going to have to google that one! "Morphological filtering" is the new Anti-Aliasing method used on Direct Compute 5.0 cards and above (5800 series and higher) it uses a post-processing method of applying AA instead of the tradional shader based method. Go back a few pages in this thread, you see some discussion about it :thumbup: 1
hassata Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Mustang: are you finding App Preference the best option for A10, or are you also using at; MSAA for that as well? And isn't Vertical Sync getting applied automatically in A10 (therefore no need for overrider? Or is it preferable anyway to force Trip Buff. Thanks [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mustang Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Mustang: are you finding App Preference the best option for A10, or are you also using at; MSAA for that as well? And isn't Vertical Sync getting applied automatically in A10 (therefore no need for overrider? Or is it preferable anyway to force Trip Buff. Thanks Since i don't yet own DCS A-10C i cannot answer :)
Kuky Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Hassata... yes you set AA to Application Preference... V-Sync is enabled by game itself so yes, no need for Overrider... and Tripple Buffering is for OpenGL PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Axion Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Hassata... yes you set AA to Application Preference... V-Sync is enabled by game itself so yes, no need for Overrider... and Tripple Buffering is for OpenGL Did not know that about DCS-A10C, thankyou. :thumbup: However I did find that I had to force Vsync in Win7 via D3DOverrider in order for it to work within FC 2 and BS, or maybe it's just me? Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64
hassata Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Yes, I had to force V-Sync with overrider in BS and FC2 for smoother game play and better fps. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kuky Posted November 3, 2010 Posted November 3, 2010 Did not know that about DCS-A10C, thankyou. :thumbup: However I did find that I had to force Vsync in Win7 via D3DOverrider in order for it to work within FC 2 and BS, or maybe it's just me? Yup same... DCS A-10C has this option already set in Graphics.cfg (sync = 1) PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Mustang Posted November 4, 2010 Posted November 4, 2010 Review of the new Morphological AA feature http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/11/02/amd_morphological_aa_performance_iq_review
Mustang Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Catalyst 10.10e available https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/20307/1m/www2.ati.com/DRIVERS/hotfix/catalyst_10.10_hotfixes/catalyst_10.10e_hotfix_win7_nov9.exe AMD Catalyst 10.10e Hotfix Features: The AMD Catalyst Control Center now features the new AMD Catalyst AI user interface options on the ATI Radeon™ HD 5000 Series (the new AMD Catalyst AI options were previously only available for the AMD Radeon 6800 Series) Fixed cases where Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA) was not being correctly applied to games (very intermittently) OpenGL 4.1 beta support Support for the new Morphological Anti-Aliasing feature Dead Rising 2 – Crossfire profile (Resolves negative scaling) Crossfire Performance Improvement for: Metro 2033 F1 2011 - (Direct X9 version) Fallout New Vegas [*]Performance optimizations for systems with an AMD Radeon HD 6870 and AMD Radeon HD 6850 series of graphics products installed Aliens versus Predator performance enhancements Star Craft 2 performance enhancements OpenGL performance enhancements – gains can be seen in Prey, Quake Wars: Enemy Territories, and Heaven v2 [*]Support for additional Stereo 3D-capable displays: Viewsonic V3D241wm-LED 3D Projectors --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MLAA (Morphological AA) now shows in CCC, also the new Catalyst AI features are present, all on my HD5770 Edited November 12, 2010 by Mustang 1
Mustang Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Just found this screenshot showing what Morphological Filtering is all about, handy info :)
Succellus Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Looks like a damn blur to me. Focus loss, blurred edges with serrated dent still there, clarity and contrast altered to compensate but quite not makng it. Who need AA with a monitor 1650X1050 or above ? All i see its a decrease in performance. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
Mustang Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Looks like a damn blur to me. Focus loss, blurred edges with serrated dent still there, clarity and contrast altered to compensate but quite not makng it. Who need AA with a monitor 1650X1050 or above ? All i see its a decrease in performance. It works very nicely when used in the right place, especially in games that cannot use AA, such as GTA IV, Bioshock 2, Wolfenstein to name a few. And as for decrease in performance? none here :) Edited November 12, 2010 by Mustang
Succellus Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 It works very nicely when used in the right place, especially in games that cannot use AA, such as GTA IV, Bioshock 2, Wolfenstein to name a few. And as for decrease in performance? none here :) I hanven t seen much diference ingame to say the true but i don t play those game much, only seen them at friend places. What i see is a distance management where you can efectively trade a crisp image in medium to far scene for blurred one. In such situation yes it does a diference since the human eye is not that good at sharp details in distance, it even seem more natural. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD.
hassata Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Are you in App Pref for AA and Ansio Mustang? Thanks [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mustang Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Are you in App Pref for AA and Ansio Mustang? Thanks For MLAA usage? yes.
Le0kong Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Great, they changed the Catalyst A.I options, now which of 'performance, quality and high quality' is the old turn off Catalyst A.I ? AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8@3360 MHz | MB Asus M4A78-EM | 4GB DDR2-800 Kingston | XFX HD 5770 @850-900/1200-1300 | 500G Samsung HD502HI | Case CM 335 | CM-EPP 460W | Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit) | Saitek X65F | Freetrack(Wii Remote) | LG 23' W2353V
159th_Viper Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Great, they changed the Catalyst A.I options, now which of 'performance, quality and high quality' is the old turn off Catalyst A.I ? Slider far left is off I would assume. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
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