Best sim next to LOMAC?

[SgtPappy]

The few simming friends I have aren't ready for LOMAC yet.

 

Now I know the Third Wire series isn't a true simulator - a 'light' sim at best - but I was wondering if Wings Over Europe would be a good compromise for me so that my friends and I can pick up and play. Plus, I've only got a laptop with no keypad, so I don't even know if I've got enough buttons for any jet sim.

 

But what are the flight models like? What are the differences between LOMAC and Wings over Europe? Is it just simplified or is it horribly incorrect in every way? How do the planes compare in the mods? (i.e. will an Su-27 turn tighter than an Eagle; will an Eagle climb faster than an Su-27... etc)

 

For those of you who play IL-2 (the classic PC sim versions like 1946), have you tried IL-2 Wings of Prey? That is an arcade-sim version of the classic IL-2 games but quite simplified in things like torque, different aircraft accelerations are not very noticeable, planes all stall the same (albeit they stall at different speeds and AoA).

 

Could WoE be like the Wings of Prey of the LOMAC world?

 

Thanks!

[swift]

Yes, Thirdwire series are Fun. It's a very light simulator, with arcadish approach focused on action. The only downside is that AFAIK the new SF2 engine doesn't allow multiplayer. But SF1 with all the mods and addons should be pretty much on par with SF2.

 

But cmon Lomac is not that hard! I'd stick to Lomac and DCS, but that's me :cheer3nc:

[Airbuster]

Well I've tried Wings Over Israel for couple of hours and IMHO - yes, it will do the job. It's fun to play and little less complex than LOMAC, but way ahead from arcade games like HAWX. The graphics are not that bad - The terrain is awful from low altitudes, but if you fly high it's OK. The clouds are little terrible too. The 3d models of the planes however are really good, even some are better than the old stock models of LOMAC.

Give it a try, you won't regret.

[asparagin]

OMG, 2 posts and no falconeers here? :gun_rifle:

[GGTharos]

They probably read and understood the context of the OP.

[asparagin]

They probably read and understood the context of the OP.

 

Yeah you're right, I saw sim and got blind, but truth is, LOMAC is a good gateway drug, I wouldn't go below what realism goes.

[GGTharos]

LOMAC will get you almost as far in A2A and iron bomb employment as Falcon will.

 

The rest is the rest ;)

[asparagin]

You're talking about FC here.

[GGTharos]

Yes. I really shouldn't be using them as interchangeably as I do.

[SgtPappy]

Thanks gents.

 

I'm still planning to buy LOMAC but probably later when I get a PC that can run, a good stick that can help me fly it. Could I fly the WoE with a mouse? All I have is this laptop :(

 

@Swift

What do you mean by SF1 and SF2? I assume then that 'SF1' has multiplayer?

 

I found Lock On: Platinum for $19 yesterday but when I buy any Lock On game, it'll have to be FC2 with its updated flight models.

[egorter]

I got platinum at best buy for $20 and FC2 is in the box

[SgtPappy]

Oh wow.. really?

 

Well I'm buying this from Canada and the price tags on the box looked pretty dated. It's the box with the Eagle on the front, not the MiG. If that means anything. From what I figure, it's got FC2 as well, but I can't be sure.

 

Also, until I after I get a joystick would it be possible to fly offline with a mouse or perhaps PS3 gamepad (the closest thing I have to a flight stick)? :)

Edited November 3, 2010 by SgtPappy

[egorter]

yes the one with the two tone eagle covered in vapor.

 

mouse would be tough ps3 gamepad a little better but not much.

[swift]

@Swift

What do you mean by SF1 and SF2? I assume then that 'SF1' has multiplayer?

 

Strike Fighters I and Strike Fighters II is the product vaseline and core for all the subsequent titles like Wings Over Vietnam, Europe, Israel, etc.

 

Unfortunately in Strike Fighters II (therefore WOV2, WOE2 and WOI2) multiplayer is missing. But the venerable Strike Fighters I has multiplayer.

 

Check this reviews SF1 SF2

[mikoyan]

What about flanker 1.5?

I like Rise of Flight. Very detailed yet doesn't require a 400 page manual.

[SgtPappy]

@ A.S

 

Yea I used to play IL-2 1946 before my graphics card burned out. I was decent at the game... I say 1:1 kill ratio lol. At the time I had been using a simple joystick which I still have, but it's really crap. Less buttons than a console controller and the throttle takes up two buttons. The only reason I had any competence in IL-2 is due to my nerdage for WWII aircraft, particularly the Spitfires - most of which had automatic cooling systems in RL and in-game.

 

LOMAC in all its modern technological glory, will be a huge step for me.

[104th_Crunch]

I like Rise of Flight. Very detailed yet doesn't require a 400 page manual.

 

but frame rate, at least me is sucky. I turn all on low and still stutter. I don't think it is a config thing either. GTX 280, Core Duo @ 3.6, 4GB RAM

 

The most non-uber sim I play is Wings of Prey (thanks Moa!). There is still lots of fidelity. Almost as much as FC's jet fighters really in terms of flight model (not the Su-25), and the graphics are the best in simming on the PC right now I think. Also, easy to learn. Of course when BoB:SOW is released, I won't touch it ever again.

Edited November 4, 2010 by Crunch

[SgtPappy]

Thanks for the links Swift! Good stuff.

 

BoB: SoW is intense...

[Crash_Fistfight]

After the ED sims I think IL2 1946 is one of greatest sims ever made not for realism or graphics but for sheer scope, i've been playin for 8-9 years and I haven't flown everything yet. The romance of that era of military avaition and design really appeals to me.

[Steel Jaw]

What about flanker 1.5?

 

I think you mean Flanker 2.0 .:thumbup:

[Boberro]

LOMAC will get you almost as far in A2A and iron bomb employment as Falcon will.

 

The rest is the rest ;)

 

Yeah sure I see you have long and wide meaning of "almost" word:D

 

Imagine saying to poor man and his poverty that he is almost as rich as beloved Bill G :)

[Steel Jaw]

LOMAC will get you almost as far in A2A and iron bomb employment as Falcon will)

 

No it wont. ;)

but frame rate, at least me is sucky.

 

Too bad. I get over 50 fps constantly with v-synch on at 60 hz. ROF is smooth and has great atmosphere.

[Poor mans sniper]

ROF Vs. ARMA 2 + OA Pack. Which one?