Nose keeps rising+ other questions

[twobells]

Newbie DCS A-10 pilot here.

 

 

A couple of quick questions:

 

1: I keep finding it a struggle to keep my nose level, the power seems immense!

The hog keeps wanting to rise above 20 degrees inclination, any ideas?

 

2: Without pedals which keys do you find most comfortable on the Hotas to use as rudders?

 

 

 

 

Thanks in advance

Edited November 24, 2010 by twobells

[159th_Viper]

1 - Trim for level flight.

 

2 - Which HOTAS?

[twobells]

I just got the TM Warthog today but 'trim' (which is my HAT stick) seems set to camera for some reason.

I haven't installed t.a.r.g.e.t yet as I want to try the default settings.

[Lixma 06]

1: I keep finding it a struggle to keep my nose level, the power seems immense!

The hog keeps wanting to rise above 20 degrees inclination, any ideas?

Check your flaps. If you start from the runway your flaps are already deployed a notch.

[twobells]

What's M/R on the Warthog HOTAS flap list?

 

I have UP/DOWN and M/R.

 

I should use (UP) for takeoff and (DOWN) for free flight?

Edited November 24, 2010 by twobells

[159th_Viper]

I just got the TM Warthog today but 'trim' (which is my HAT stick) seems set to camera for some reason.

I haven't installed t.a.r.g.e.t yet as I want to try the default settings.

 

Do not need T.A.R.G.E.T. - just assign Trim to POV HAT via In-Game control options.

[twobells]

Do not need T.A.R.G.E.T. - just assign Trim to POV HAT via In-Game control options.

 

Thanks for that!

[159th_Viper]

What's M/R on the Warthog HOTAS flap list?

 

I have UP/DOWN and M/R.

 

I should use (DOWN) for takeoff and UP for free flight?

 

No and Yes

 

UP = Free-Flight/Weapons deployment

 

M/R = manoeuvre = 7 degree angle. Utilized at take-off.

 

DOWN = 20 degree angle. Utilized at Landing.

[oho]

I had problems to get the full loaded plane up in some quick missions before the end of the airstrip with flaps down 7 degrees. When I put them up it was no problem at all - how come?

[159th_Viper]

I had problems to get the full loaded plane up in some quick missions before the end of the airstrip with flaps down 7 degrees. When I put them up it was no problem at all - how come?

 

Bad Clams?

 

In the absence of a track, any attempt at troubleshooting/advice is gonna be guesswork at best ;)

[twobells]

I am super-impressed with the TM hog, the QC, tactile response etc is superb.

IN trying to avoid the problems other hog-owners have had I installed the HOTAS to my main board usb slots in the hope I'll avoid similar problems.

 

My next task is to complete my 360 turn without deviating too much, I am struggling to maintain a constant turn angle, could trim have a role here?

[Frederf]

You could certainly trim pitch up in a turn. In your standard 30 degree bank level turn you bank over, apply pitch up to keep the TVV on the horizon, increase throttle slightly to maintain speed, and coordinate rudder into the turn with a slight press on the inboard pedal.

[GGTharos]

Yes, it does. You'll notice that the A-10 has a tendency to want to return to the trimmed position. Any time you are doing a maneuver where you must hold the stick in one place constantly, trim it out instead.

 

I am super-impressed with the TM hog, the QC, tactile response etc is superb.

IN trying to avoid the problems other hog-owners have had I installed the HOTAS to my main board usb slots in the hope I'll avoid similar problems.

 

My next task is to complete my 360 turn without deviating too much, I am struggling to maintain a constant turn angle, could trim have a role here?

[Dethmagnetic]

I am super-impressed with the TM hog, the QC, tactile response etc is superb.

IN trying to avoid the problems other hog-owners have had I installed the HOTAS to my main board usb slots in the hope I'll avoid similar problems.

 

My next task is to complete my 360 turn without deviating too much, I am struggling to maintain a constant turn angle, could trim have a role here?

 

Trim isn't normally used for turns (at least in my experience), since you'd just have to go back to the original trim setting when the turn is over. The important thing to remember during turns is that you also need to pull back on the stick through the turn. When the aircraft is banked, part of its lift is turned horizontally, so you need to increase lift (by pulling back on the stick) in order to compensate and maintain a correct pitch attitude. Roll/yaw trim is used more for balancing out turning tendencies caused by non-symmetrical weapon loads, battle damage, etc.

 

And yes, pitch trim is absolutely essential. Usually only larger, jet-type aircraft have roll and yaw trim, but even the smallest aircraft have pitch trim, otherwise it would be hellish to fly :joystick:

[twobells]

If someone doesn't have pedals what's the best position on the Cougar/Warthog for rudder?

[effte]

If someone doesn't have pedals what's the best position on the Cougar/Warthog for rudder?

 

I'd do without. The Hog is not an aircraft which requires heavy use of pedals. They're nice to have, but unlike prop sims, you can live without having them.

[Dethmagnetic]

If you already shelled out for the TM Warthog, why not just buy a set of pedals? You can probably get them for like 1/5th of what you paid for the HOTAS.

[kylania]

If someone doesn't have pedals what's the best position on the Cougar/Warthog for rudder?

 

I use the default Z and X keys. Only time I really end up using rudder is during take off and landing when my throttle is going to be max or idle the whole time so taking my left hand off throttle doesn't matter much to me.

[jazjar]

If you want to play black shark with a hog though, rudders are a necessity

[RogueRunner]

The lift formula will show that as you increase speed, so does lift, ie nose will rise. Just trim her out. If you change either your power or speed you will have to retrim for level flight. It's just how things work.

 

On your second point, if you can afford a Warthog then dude, get some pedals man :P The Saiteks are cheap in comparison!

[Tango]

Hi,

 

Always trim in level flight. Remember that thrust changes as well as speed changes will affect trim, too.

 

Flaps will also affect trim to a large degree - flaps down will result in a pitch down as the center of pressure moves aft.

 

Speed brakes result in a pitch moment due to the increased drag on the upper surfaces, which being above the CoG result in a pitch up.

 

I noticed the aircraft accelerates better clean, but again this is not really surprising. The additional lift also induces drag. Unfortunately you don't get something for nothing.

 

If you're heavy on a hot day, try and hold it in ground effect, get the gear up then pull up the flaps. Watch the pitch up and sink rate, and pull to keep the aircraft level. In ground effect the aircraft has reduced drag and will accelerate well.

 

Best regards,

Tango.

Edited November 25, 2010 by Tango

[Weta43]

If you're heavy on a hot day, try and hold it in ground effect, get the gear up then pull up the flaps. Watch the pitch up and sink rate, and pull to keep the aircraft level. In ground effect the aircraft has reduced drag and will accelerate well.

 

Don't you love that you can do this in the SIM :-) ?

[Tango]

Don't you love that you can do this in the SIM :-) ?

TOTALLY!!!! :D :D

 

The turbulence from flying low over buildings hasn't gone unnoticed, either. ;) :D

 

Best regards,

Tango.

[twobells]

Another quick question:

 

I am having trouble remembering the start up routine and need it for Multi-player, is there a keyboard shortcut?

 

thanks

[159th_Viper]

Another quick question:

 

I am having trouble remembering the start up routine and need it for Multi-player, is there a keyboard shortcut?

 

thanks

 

 

Not yet.