DocSigma Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 For those of you who are users of the Cougar MFD's, are they worth the purchase, and are they easily used with DCS A10C etc..? Thanks for the input. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS
pitbull Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 IMO, they are worth every penny. Relatively cheap, plug & play with DCS:A10C. If your so inclined, you can also use a second monitor to display the MFC content, and stick the MFD's on it. I did it and it's frikin' just awesome go for it! MOBO ASUS P5QL-Pro, Intel Q9550 2.8Ghz @ 3.5 GHZ, 8GB DDR2 Crucial, XFX HD6950, TM Warthog, TIR4 /w Pro-Clip, 24 In Samsung Syncmaster LED, 2 X Cheapo 8in LCD's for MFD's and TM MFCD's attached to it, Windows 7 Ultimate x64.
LawnDart Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 Aside from DCS: A-10, I love the fact that they are programmable in TARGET as well (alongside your other TM devices such as the Warthog or Cougar). [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
shu77 Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 With MFD output on a second screen it is a complete game changer, you are probably 10 times more efficient in operation. even in FC2, with various useful keyboard presses around them they are great. Right up there with a HOTAS or a track IR IMO.. Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools
Yskonyn Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 I never realised they are only the frames with the buttons, not actual displays... odd to name them MFD's us it not? They do seem handy though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
Steel Jaw Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 So then say the TAD map would not be displayed? USELESS then IMHO. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB.
Slammin Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 They are very cool when you put a monitor behind them. I use an 8" touchscreen with 1024x768 resolution and when you export a display to the screen with a Cougar MFD attached, it is totally awesome. Too much of a framerate hit with A10 beta 3 for me right now when exporting, but even without exporting the display, I still prefer to 'press' the button with my finger rather than with the mouse. Pretty reasonably priced too, for what you get. Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
Swaty Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Agreed! Check here (before A-10C) http://www.hotas.gr/content/view/75/51/lang,en/ Even without display are great [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Pit
airdog Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 This is my rig below and why the MFD's, a second screen and HELIOS is worth the investment Airdog | Asus ROG Strix Z370-E Mobo | i7 8700K @ 4.7 | 32 GB DDR4@3200mhz | Gigabyte 2080Ti OC 11GB| Samsung M.2 960 Evo 250Gb and 500Gb | Win10 Pro | Hotas Warthog #02743 | Track IR 5 | Toshiba 47" 120hz LED | Acer 23" Touchscreen | HELIOS |Oculus Rift-S| http://www.blackknightssquadron.com/
WishMaster Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Is the MFD information coming from helios on that second screen? ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 | Intel Core i7 920@3.8GHz| OCZ RevoDrive X2 240GB | 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB | Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D 12GB (6x2GB) DDR3 | EVGA GTX 780| Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit | Thrustmaster Warthog #00307 | Saitek Pro Flight pedals |Thrustmaster Cougar MFD's | 30" Dell monitor (2560X1600)
DocSigma Posted December 13, 2010 Author Posted December 13, 2010 That is impressive. Let me get this straight. You have two small touchscreen LCD's with video output for both MFD's and the cougar MFDs aligned over them and a second large format monitor displaying those different panels? Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS
airdog Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 (edited) That is impressive. Let me get this straight. You have two small touchscreen LCD's with video output for both MFD's and the cougar MFDs aligned over them and a second large format monitor displaying those different panels? Negative......I have 2 monitors...main is a1920x1200 24 inch the 2nd is a 18.5@1366x768. The smaller one displays the mfd's thru the DCS interface and all the helios gauges are displayed in the areas left blank.The cougar mfd's are velcroed to the monitor bezel. The helios program lets you build the cockpit however you want based on your monitor setup. Better pic here though the cougars are on the bezel not the screen now Edited December 13, 2010 by airdog Airdog | Asus ROG Strix Z370-E Mobo | i7 8700K @ 4.7 | 32 GB DDR4@3200mhz | Gigabyte 2080Ti OC 11GB| Samsung M.2 960 Evo 250Gb and 500Gb | Win10 Pro | Hotas Warthog #02743 | Track IR 5 | Toshiba 47" 120hz LED | Acer 23" Touchscreen | HELIOS |Oculus Rift-S| http://www.blackknightssquadron.com/
Yskonyn Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Ah right... Well if I ever lay my hands on another monitor I'll be buying the MFD panels too. It does seem to make your life a lot easier switching and controlling the different systems on board. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
BaD CrC Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 So you can export the displays AND display the HELIOS gauges on the same screen? This is getting interresting. I have been trying to have the 4 BS gauges displayed with the ABRIS at the same time with no luck so far. https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden
Flim Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Yes , you can display Helios over anything you want... in Windows or sim.
Slammin Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 So you can export the displays AND display the HELIOS gauges on the same screen? This is getting interresting. I have been trying to have the 4 BS gauges displayed with the ABRIS at the same time with no luck so far. You can do this with TouchBuddy as well but Helios sure makes it a lot easier! Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
Yskonyn Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 That name 'TouchBuddy' remains sounding awkward, even after this long. :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-E, 32GB Crucial Ballistix 2400Mhz, Intel i7 9700K 5.0Ghz, Asus GTX1080 8GB, SoundBlaster AE-5, G15, Streamdeck, DSD Flight, TM Warthog, VirPil BRD, MFG Crosswind CAM5, TrackIR 5, KW-908 Jetseat, Win 10 64-bit ”Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing. However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore.”
Slammin Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Yeah, TouchBooty would have been a better name for it :-) Abit IN9 32x MAX- Kentsfield QX6700 @3520 1.5 vcore watercooled D-Tek Fuzion/PA-160/MCR120/2x MCP655 2x2GB G-Skill 1066 5-5-5-15 2T@1.9vdimm 2x EVGA 580GTX 1.5GB SLI 2x 74GB Sata Raptor Raid0 2x 320GB Hitachi Sata II X-FI Elite Pro Dell U3011 Lian Li V2100B Corsair HX1000
DocSigma Posted December 14, 2010 Author Posted December 14, 2010 I'm sold. Using them with the two 8' mini lcd's outputting the two MFD's to each frame. Now I just have to find two 8' lcd's with VGA compatibility and a 800x600 resolution. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS
Flim Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 We are not exporting the MFD info from DCS!! All that is done the same way as always. There is no way for us to do it... DCS really needs a separate program built into the sim that allows us to do that. Helios is for instruments,panels, switches, etc...
Loz Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) Another option if you have a triple screen setup is as below. So in answer to your origional question. Yes MFCDs are definitley worth it but beware, make sure they are Version 2 (It only shows this on a small label on the base.) As the first version had lots and lots of switch and unit failures. I returned two sets of them and I'm still haggling for my money refunded. Edited December 14, 2010 by Loz i9 9900x at 5.1 Ghz // ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula EK Bloc // 64Gb Corsair Vengence 3600Mhz DDR4 Ram // Gigabyte Aorus 3090 Watercooled block//Samsung SM951 M2 x4 SSD // Windows 10 64 Bit //48inch LG48 @ 3840x2160 120Hz//Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ 3440 x 14440 144Hz // TM Warthog HOTAS (Ser. No. 00836) //MFG Crosswind Pedals // TrackIR 5 //Varjo Aero An old pilot is one who remembers when flying was dangerous and sex was safe. My YouTube DCS World Four Screen Videos
LawnDart Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 Pretty sweet setup you've got there... (but what is that Warthog doing on the desk???). ;) [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
Loz Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 I find it comfortable there, and means I don't have to go hacking into my study floor for a stable mount. Anyway ergonomicly it works, even though not realistic for the hog. RL flying has made me happy with it there. i9 9900x at 5.1 Ghz // ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula EK Bloc // 64Gb Corsair Vengence 3600Mhz DDR4 Ram // Gigabyte Aorus 3090 Watercooled block//Samsung SM951 M2 x4 SSD // Windows 10 64 Bit //48inch LG48 @ 3840x2160 120Hz//Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ 3440 x 14440 144Hz // TM Warthog HOTAS (Ser. No. 00836) //MFG Crosswind Pedals // TrackIR 5 //Varjo Aero An old pilot is one who remembers when flying was dangerous and sex was safe. My YouTube DCS World Four Screen Videos
power5 Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 How did you display the mfd over top of the normal viewport? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109
Loz Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) How did you display the mfd over top of the normal viewport? There is all you need to know in this thread :joystick::pilotfly: My ../Config/MonitorSetup/WS2MFCDs.lua is below _ = function(p) return p; end; name = _('WS2MFCDs'); Description = 'WideScreen with Left MFCD on the left monitor,bottom right corner, Right MFCD on the right, in the bottom left corner, and camera on the center.' Viewports = { Center = { x = 0; y = 0; width = 6052; height = 1200; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 5.23; } } LEFT_MFCD = { x = 1520; y = 800; width = 400; height = 400; } RIGHT_MFCD = { x = 4132; y = 800; width = 400; height = 400; } Edited December 15, 2010 by Loz i9 9900x at 5.1 Ghz // ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula EK Bloc // 64Gb Corsair Vengence 3600Mhz DDR4 Ram // Gigabyte Aorus 3090 Watercooled block//Samsung SM951 M2 x4 SSD // Windows 10 64 Bit //48inch LG48 @ 3840x2160 120Hz//Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ 3440 x 14440 144Hz // TM Warthog HOTAS (Ser. No. 00836) //MFG Crosswind Pedals // TrackIR 5 //Varjo Aero An old pilot is one who remembers when flying was dangerous and sex was safe. My YouTube DCS World Four Screen Videos
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