JCook Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 I'm having a bit of trouble with trimming the aircraft's pitch. I've got the pitch/roll trim setup properly on my stick, a Saitek X65F, and I feel like I have a large enough deadzone applied (8 I think) but the plane doesn't hold level when flying hands off. Maybe this is the way it should be - anyone else experience this? I use the pitch trim, but it takes quite a bit of up/down adjustments to get it near level and it doesn't last for long. Thanks for the help John
raynor Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Are you holding constant speed? If you aren't doing that and are speeding up the aircraft will nose up the more speed it picks up and nose down the more speed it loses naturally.
JCook Posted January 10, 2011 Author Posted January 10, 2011 Yes, holding constant speed - not changing the throttles though the aircraft is obviously increasing/decreasing in speed as the pitch trimming is being done.
raynor Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 I haven't noticed this though I do not have a deadzone set on my control stick so I am able to make the very minute adjustments to keep level. Not that it might help you with your issue but when I trim out the aircraft I get the total velocity vector to stop moving up or down no matter my attitude and it will normally hold there as long as speed and wind are constant. 1
JCook Posted January 10, 2011 Author Posted January 10, 2011 Yup - thats what I am trying to do - hold the TVV level on the horizon line.
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Whippler Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 on x65f axis settings page, when centered. are those stick indicators whit-in the deadzones?
tusler Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 I have exactly the same problem, it seems like the pitch trim up/down increments are too large. If I click trim up 1 single click I am climbing and if I do a single click down trim I am slowly diving and this with keeping a steady speed of say 220. The only cure I have found is to use the auto pilot and then it will fly straight and level. My controller is the Hotas Warthog. Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff :pilotfly:! PC=Win 10 HP 64 bit, Gigabyte Z390, Intel I5-9600k, 32 gig ram, Nvidia 2060 Super 8gig video. TM HOTAS WARTHOG with Saitek Pedals
SAAFDirtyHarry Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 I am not sure about the Saitek... is the trim button an 'axis' or is it a type of POV hat. I am using a HOTAS Cougar and find that when trim is mapped to an axis it is VERY sensitive and you need to reduce the sensitivity ALOT. In earlier DCS games like Lock On and FC2 the trim mapped to a hat switch didn't work very well because the steps were too large resulting in over trimming. However since A-10C I have noticed 'buttons' or a hat view used for trimming works EXTREMELY well as the steps are small enough! Also IRL pilots use AUTOPILOT alot to reduce work load. I suggest: (1) Make sure your trim functions are programmed to a HAT switch or similar and not an axis. (2) Remember the trim mantra: POWER, ATTITUDE, TRIM! (3) Once trimmed for straight and level flight use autopilot to reduce work load. If you still can't trim after (1) then I think there is probably something wrong. Regards
lucioperca Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 its also worth remembering once trimmed for level flight you can adjust pitch by increasing or decreasing the throttle winXP sp3 i5 3.640ghz duo core 4gig Ram Nvidia Geforce GTS 250 1 gig TIR4 Thrustmaster Cougar
docehrenhoefer Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 As SimHQ mentioned in a review, the X-65 seems to lack correct recentering. Possibly the reason? I donnot know...
Wolf Rider Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 How does Joyrange.cfg work? Default is 400 but tried setting it @ 255 the same as the range reported in the Raw Data indicator whilst calibrating and it seemed (might be a placebo effect) to make a difference. City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar"
TeeJay82 Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 This is how i fixed my problem. Unplug the cable from the stick itself... then reattach it and make sure the stick is in absolute center (leave it on the table and dont get any pressure applied to it
DocSigma Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 keep RPM's the same while you trim to get it level at that thrust. If you change the thrust you of course have to correct by trimming for added or decreased airflow over the wings while in level flight. And use auto pilot as mentioned above once you've got the aircraft trimmed. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS
MemphisBelle Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I had the same problem. I am using a Saitek X-52 Pro. Yesterday I changed the value in the Joyrange.cfg. It´s located in the Confic Directorie I guess.. I am not sure, cause I am on work right now. The default value is set to 400. I changed the value to 1400 and I got a smooth Hog. It´s way more easier now to trim and even hold the trimmed axis. BlackSharkDen | BSD Discord | DCS Tutorial Collection
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