Japans earth quake 20110311

[Sticky]

Picture shows if there would have been a meltdown the 12th, with winds blowing northeast.

 

[RIPTIDE]

Respectfully, there's no point discussing the issue if you'll just assume that any and all information being released is false. I don't entertain conspiracy theories.

 

Remember: you can set off radiation alarms through bringing a banana. Don't assume that just because people take precautions things are apocalyptic.

Ya. They could use water from that river nearby, Deh Nile, to cool the reactors. :lol:

Edited March 14, 2011 by RIPTIDE

[RIPTIDE]

Picture shows if there would have been a meltdown the 12th, with winds blowing northeast.

 

Lets hope the wind changes and gets Canada instead. ;)

[Thunderbird]

Lets hope the wind changes and gets Canada instead. ;)

 

Huh?

[hassata]

I wouldn't worry. We're talking about gasses and those would dissipate long before reaching the Americas.

[jpm1]

This is unbelievable...

2uJN3Z1ryck

 

:cry:

 

the white car at the beginning it's something to have an heart attack , imagine the car has a failure

 

pIZKlaEZMLY

 

Differences as with Chernobyl:

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2011/0313/Japan-s-nuclear-crisis-and-Chernobyl-key-differences

 

"The Japanese reactors are a completely different design known as Boiling Water Reactors, which are old and tested, and have three quite elaborate systems of containment designed to constrain radioactive leakage, points out Josef Oehmen, a research scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in Cambridge, Mass. “The third containment is designed, built, and tested for one single purpose: To contain, indefinitely, a complete core meltdown,” he writes."

 

that's theority but reality is that the american carrier has been exposed . we have a nuclear plant that is exploding like if it was a 4th of july , expect that everything has been anticipated

 

Before and after pics:

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm

 

 

All those airliners swept away in the first pic :shocking:

 

nice find

[winz]

that's theority but reality is that the american carrier has been exposed .

Some medical examinations will give you bigger dose, than what the crew of that carrier was exposed to.

[EtherealN]

Picture shows if there would have been a meltdown the 12th, with winds blowing northeast.

 

No, it shows "if there would have been a meltdown on the 12th that defeats the containment", which is unlikely. As was stated earlier: this isn't the Chernobyl reactor.

 

Whoa, calm down, nobody is saying anything about it being apocalyptic or saying everything is a conspiracy or disbeliving everything

 

I think it was Jpm1 that used specifically that word. ;)

[bumfire]

I am hearing now that 17 US servicemen who were on a helicopter 100 miles out to sea have been zapped, they only found out when they landed on the US carrier that they had mid levels of radiation on their clothing as sensors on the carrier picked it up, and supposedly they werent anywhere near fukushima, I have no idea if thats been verified or not ?

 

But saying all this, I am still a proponent of Nuclear Power, as it is remarkably safe energy option given the huge amounts of electricity it has generated over the years and, the huge number of reactors all over the world thats in operation today.

 

A huge quake, multiple smaller quakes in the ranges of 6 and 7.0's, a tsunami and 2 huge explosions and yet the reactor confinement on all reactors is still intact, superb if you ask me, as this shows that the worst case scenario that is ever likely to happen to a nuke power plant, well a western one that is, whatever happens, its extremely unlikely to breach them.

 

This could turn out to be the Japanese Dunkirk, victory snatched from the jaws of defeat ? which could then be shown around the world as advert on how safe nuclear reactors are, especially newer ones which have newer/better safety systems compared to something that is 40 years old.

[RIPTIDE]

No, it shows "if there would have been a meltdown on the 12th that defeats the containment", which is unlikely. As was stated earlier: this isn't the Chernobyl reactor.

 

 

 

I think it was Jpm1 that used specifically that word. ;)

Conspiracy theory aside, what isn't in doubt is that the power company involved has been falsifying safety records for more than 20 years. Caught several times and continued with the practice. ;) So, you'll have to excuse some of us if we have a large rock of salt handy when we hear their reports.

[jpm1]

...A huge quake, multiple smaller quakes in the ranges of 6 and 7.0's, a tsunami and 2 huge explosions and yet the reactor confinement on all reactors is still intact, superb if you ask me, as this shows that the worst case scenario that is ever likely to happen to a nuke power plant, well a western one that is, whatever happens, its extremely unlikely to breach them...

 

who speaks of getting the plant breached to get a disaster . out of order cooling systems are largely enought to get a disaster scenario . and that's exactly what's happening at Fukushima . and it's not one reactor which is concerned but 3 (thanks God reactor #4 was inactive) . i'm not pointing out the danger of nuclear in case of a seism or whatever your want , but if you speak about the waste , for me an industry that create 200 000 years life time waste can not be something good for human race . then equation is simple non-CO2 energy,cheap price, and energetical independance = out of sense waste managing,incidents that may lead to catastrophic and total lost of control , maybe i forgot an avantage then , well i'm waiting . i want to add two things , alternative and clean energies are available (with my green electricity provider , i pay only 10E more each month than if i was with nuclear) and how do you think they control as they can the faulty reactor(s) temperature . they use sea water and they regularly release vapor from inside the reactor to prevent it from an explosion , and somebody will tell me all this crap is all clean . like i said i think air and sea around the plant are highly contaminated as we speak .

yeh , i know japanese aren't like the others they have Gojira but man it takes his time (may japanese forgive me , just trying to get things more relaxed)

[Pilotasso]

Actually the worst that could happen to a nuke plant would be a hit from cruise missile in a military conflict. No chance there.

[MoGas]

Lets hope the wind changes and gets Canada instead. ;)

 

No, it should sit on Japan, where it is coming from.

 

;)

[Mustang]

Nuclear Reactors in Japan

 

[winz]

i want to add two things , alternative and clean energies are available (with my green electricity provider , i pay only 10E more each month than if i was with nuclear) and how do you think they control as they can the faulty reactor(s) temperature .

Enlighten me, which green, reliable, energy can replace +400MW of power produced by a single nuclear reactor.

Also 'green' energy, do some research on solar collectors, esspecialy on how the chemicals their are made of are produced and how many energy is required.

 

. they use sea water and they regularly release vapor from inside the reactor to prevent it from an explosion , and somebody will tell me all this crap is all clean .

And what about those burning oil refineries, don't tell me that the crap that got into the atmosphere was all clean. Think about it next time you sit in a car.

 

A 40+ years old reactor was able to handle a 9 earthquake and a 10m tall tsunami without busting.

[jpm1]

Enlighten me, which green, reliable, energy can replace +400MW of power produced by a single nuclear reactor.

Also 'green' energy, do some research on solar collectors, esspecialy on how the chemicals their are made of are produced and how many energy is required.

 

And what about those burning oil refineries, don't tell me that the crap that got into the atmosphere was all clean. Think about it next time you sit in a car...

 

so according to you a toxic 200 000 years life time waste is something interesting , it's something clean ? enlighten me . Fukushima worst scenarios aren't optimistic and if i obviously doesn't want for the japanese to see such scenarios happen there aren't optimistic at all . lot of specialists say that the situation while being still under control (latest BBC are sometimes less optimistic) , there are serious chances that it can go into an uncontrolled one which could be then a major disaster . nuclear industry has big avantages that's true but it has bigger disavantages . on TV right now other explosions at the plant and some very huge , can't tell if some reactors are damaged , just grabbed the info but seems it was reactor 2 and the damages seem serious .

[Mustang]

Breaking: Third explosion at Fukushima nuclear plant

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12740843

[Pilotasso]

...and people being evacuated from the plant...

[Pilotasso]

...and I cant sleep

[Storm]

Breaking: Third explosion at Fukushima nuclear plant

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

[jpm1]

...and I cant sleep

 

lol

 

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/

 

yep already tuned , i'm a bit like Pilotasso

[Storm]

3.19 AM here:ermm:

[jpm1]

3.19 AM here:ermm:

 

1:59 AM

[bumfire]

who speaks of getting the plant breached to get a disaster . out of order cooling systems are largely enought to get a disaster scenario . and that's exactly what's happening at Fukushima . and it's not one reactor which is concerned but 3 (thanks God reactor #4 was inactive) . i'm not pointing out the danger of nuclear in case of a seism or whatever your want , but if you speak about the waste , for me an industry that create 200 000 years life time waste can not be something good for human race . then equation is simple non-CO2 energy,cheap price, and energetical independance = out of sense waste managing,incidents that may lead to catastrophic and total lost of control , maybe i forgot an avantage then , well i'm waiting . i want to add two things , alternative and clean energies are available (with my green electricity provider , i pay only 10E more each month than if i was with nuclear) and how do you think they control as they can the faulty reactor(s) temperature . they use sea water and they regularly release vapor from inside the reactor to prevent it from an explosion , and somebody will tell me all this crap is all clean . like i said i think air and sea around the plant are highly contaminated as we speak .

yeh , i know japanese aren't like the others they have Gojira but man it takes his time (may japanese forgive me , just trying to get things more relaxed)

 

Oh yea, the waste is the problem part of nuclear energy, no country knows exactly what to do with it in the long term, they say we will bury it or we will do this with it etc, but nobody really has a clue asto what they really want to do with it, hoping that future generations will figure out the answer.

 

The problem is that whilst greener alternatives and normal fuel alternatives are available, compared to nuclear, they are extremely expensive and in the case of newer greener types, they are not a real viable alternative because they dont produce enough electricity to take over the jobs of either oil/gas/coal burning power stations and hydro electric.

 

I just pray that what has happened in Japan has been contained, but it doesnt look like it has, workers being evacuated from the plant, rising radiation.

 

Japan doesnt deserve this, no country does.

 

1.02 here

[jpm1]

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The problem is that whilst greener alternatives and normal fuel alternatives are available, compared to nuclear, they are extremely expensive and in the case of newer greener types, they are not a real viable alternative because they dont produce enough electricity to take over the jobs of either oil/gas/coal burning power stations and hydro electric...

 

personnally i sincerely think that with a bit of willingness it's possible to produce enough energy , for example you can install little and silent windmills on the houses and you can dedicate specific areas for the industry for example ... and in the case we couldn't produce enought energy then we should change our behaviours . And let's not forget that if alternative technologies are where they are , it's for a big part because of nuclear or oil lobbyings , that's that nuclear too . i put again that link not directly linked to nuclear but a very good example of the lobbies and the green solutions http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3agq4_qui-a-tue-la-voiture-electrique-1_auto

 

i agree with you when you say none deserve such thing , so i rep