jazjar Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I was thinking up some paradoxes in school today, and I thought that I might like to hear some of yours'. Anyways, here are mine. "If a set contains all sets, does that set contain itself?", and "If an immovable object collides with an unstoppable one, what happens? These are the only two I thought of, I would like some more to dwell on! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
zakobi Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 I was thinking up some paradoxes in school today, and I thought that I might like to hear some of yours'. Anyways, here are mine. "If a set contains all sets, does that set contain itself?", and "If an immovable object collides with an unstoppable one, what happens? These are the only two I thought of, I would like some more to dwell on! Iirc "If a set contains all sets, does that set contain itself?" is also the NP=P and if you can solve the NP=P you win quite a large amount of money :D. And the "If an immovable object collides with an unstoppable one" simply can't exist in the known universe.
Grimes Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 This sentence is false. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
LordWolf Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 U guys are easy using paradoxes, but has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
zakobi Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 U guys are easy using paradoxes, but has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? BUT WHOSE PHONE??
starkey817 Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 How about this one: Who coined the phrase "coin the phrase"?
Depth Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Here are some actual teasers: Math: You have £100 (currency doesn't matter, use dollars or euro's if you want) and you want to buy 100 kilo's of meat. Chicken costs £1 for 1kg Beef is £5 for 1kg Duck is £1 for 20kg You have to buy 100kg, you have to spend £100 and you have to buy minimum 1kg of each. Good luck :P Logic: There are three switches downstairs. Each corresponds to one of the three light bulbs in the attic. You can turn the switches on and off and leave them in any position. How would you identify which switch corresponds to which light bulb, if you are only allowed one trip upstairs? Brain teaser: Count every " F " in the following text: FINISHED FILES ARE THE RE SULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTI FIC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS... How many? Edited May 13, 2011 by Depth [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mvsgas Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 6 F so far I'm working on the rest To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
159th_Viper Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Logic: There are three switches downstairs. Each corresponds to one of the three light bulbs in the attic. You can turn the switches on and off and leave them in any position. How would you identify which switch corresponds to which light bulb, if you are only allowed one trip upstairs? Switch #1: Switch one bulb on - you will know relevant switch because bulb will be burning bright on your trip upstairs. Switch #2: Leave another switch off - you will know what switch controls what bulb because bulb will be off. Switch #3: Switch bulb on, leave for a period of a minute and switch off again. Now go upstairs and you will be confronted with two unlit bulbs - the warmer of the two is switch #3. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Depth Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 6 F's, yes. That's a pretty rare answer, most people get 3 or 4 because the brain actually doesn't process "of". Something harder: Three Masters of Logic wanted to find out who was the wisest amongst them. So they turned to their Grand Master, asking to resolve their dispute. “Easy,” the old sage said. "I will blindfold you and paint either red, or blue dot on each man’s forehead. When I take your blindfolds off, if you see at least one red dot, raise your hand. The one, who guesses the color of the dot on his forehead first, wins." And so it was said, and so it was done. The Grand Master blindfolded the three contestants and painted red dots on every one. When he took their blindfolds off, all three men raised their hands as the rules required, and sat in silence pondering. Finally, one of them said: "I have a red dot on my forehead." How did he guess? After losing the “Spot on the Forehead” contest, the two defeated Puzzle Masters complained that the winner had made a slight pause before raising his hand, thus derailing their deductive reasoning train of thought. And so the Grand Master vowed to set up a truly fair test to reveal the best logician amongst them. He showed the three men 5 hats – two white and three black. Then he turned off the lights in the room and put a hat on each Puzzle Master’s head. After that the old sage hid the remaining two hats, but before he could turn the lights on, one of the Masters, as chance would have it, the winner of the previous contest, announced the color of his hat. And he was right once again. What color was his hat? What could have been his reasoning? Try this. The Grand Master takes a set of 8 stamps, 4 red and 4 green, known to the logicians, and loosely affixes two to the forehead of each logician so that each logician can see all the other stamps except those 2 in the Grand Master's pocket and the two on her own forehead. He asks them in turn if they know the colors of their own stamps: A: "No." B: "No." C: "No." A: "No." B: "Yes." What color stamps does B have? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
sobek Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Math: You have £100 (currency doesn't matter, use dollars or euro's if you want) and you want to buy 100 kilo's of meat. Chicken costs £1 for 1kg Beef is £5 for 1kg Duck is £1 for 20kg You have to buy 100kg, you have to spend £100 and you have to buy minimum 1kg of each. Good luck :P Easy, an underdetermined equation set, 2 equations, 3 variables, set amount of duck at will so that other boundary conditions can be met, Gauss the s*** out of the remaining two variables :D e.g. chicken: 75.25kg beef: 4,75kg duck: 20kg Edited May 13, 2011 by sobek Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
asparagin Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Easy, an undertermined equation set, 2 equations, 3 variables, set amount of duck at will so that other boundary conditions can be met, Gauss the s*** out of the remaining two variables :D e.g. chicken: 75.25kg beef: 4,75kg duck: 20kg I spent precious time solving this so that you can come here and snipe me? :D Spielverderber! Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
sobek Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Spielverderber! You can still try to get another solution, if one does not stick to integers, there's an infinite set of solutions. ;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
asparagin Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 You can still try to get another solution, if one does not stick to integers, there's an infinite set of solutions. ;) ... 62.875, 7.125, 30 you find the rest :D Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
asparagin Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Something harder: Three Masters of Logic wanted to find out who was the wisest amongst them. So they turned to their Grand Master, asking to resolve their dispute. “Easy,” the old sage said. "I will blindfold you and paint either red, or blue dot on each man’s forehead. When I take your blindfolds off, if you see at least one red dot, raise your hand. The one, who guesses the color of the dot on his forehead first, wins." And so it was said, and so it was done. The Grand Master blindfolded the three contestants and painted red dots on every one. When he took their blindfolds off, all three men raised their hands as the rules required, and sat in silence pondering. Finally, one of them said: "I have a red dot on my forehead." How did he guess? Solution: We have 3 persons A,B,C - all have a red dot on their forehead, all raised hands. A answered correctly that he is red: Situation from the perspective from person A: I see B raised his hand, so there are 2 options: 1) A = red, C = red or 2) A = blue, C = red (A = red, C = blue is not possible because A knows C is red) I see C raised his hand, so there are 2 options: 3) A = red, B = red or 4) A = blue, B = red (A = red, B = blue is not possible because A knows B is red) That gives in total 4 cases of combined options: (1,3) (1,4) (2,3) (2,4) (1,3) is possible in which case A is red (1,4) is not possible because the options contradict each other (2,3) is not possible because the options contradict each other (2,4) is possible in which case A is blue So it is for A impossible to tell if he is red or blue (50% chance) But he knows that the other persons B and C think like him. So if he were blue (A = blue) than how would the situation look from the perspective of C? Perspective of C if A = blue: C sees B raised hand so there is only one option: 1) A = blue, C = red (C = blue, A = red not possible because he sees A is blue) So C would have known the answer immediately. But because no answer came from B or C, A deduced that he can't be blue. Edited May 15, 2011 by asparagin Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
Depth Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Easy, an underdetermined equation set, 2 equations, 3 variables, set amount of duck at will so that other boundary conditions can be met, Gauss the s*** out of the remaining two variables :D e.g. chicken: 75.25kg beef: 4,75kg duck: 20kg Have to buy in whole kilo's :) Excellent work so far, I could never solve those logic questions but you're doing a good job [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
asparagin Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) After losing the “Spot on the Forehead” contest, the two defeated Puzzle Masters complained that the winner had made a slight pause before raising his hand, thus derailing their deductive reasoning train of thought. And so the Grand Master vowed to set up a truly fair test to reveal the best logician amongst them. He showed the three men 5 hats – two white and three black. Then he turned off the lights in the room and put a hat on each Puzzle Master’s head. After that the old sage hid the remaining two hats, but before he could turn the lights on, one of the Masters, as chance would have it, the winner of the previous contest, announced the color of his hat. And he was right once again. What color was his hat? What could have been his reasoning? Solution: This is easy if you look at the solution for the first puzzle. The only possible way to make it a fair contest is to give them all black hats. (the master says it will be a fair contest). Edited May 15, 2011 by asparagin Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
Kuky Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) Math: You have £100 (currency doesn't matter, use dollars or euro's if you want) and you want to buy 100 kilo's of meat. Chicken costs £1 for 1kg Beef is £5 for 1kg Duck is £1 for 20kg You have to buy 100kg, you have to spend £100 and you have to buy minimum 1kg of each. in round figures 80kg Duck $4 19kg Beef $95 1kg Chicken $1 total spent $100 for 100kg meat Edited May 14, 2011 by Kuky PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
asparagin Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Try this. The Grand Master takes a set of 8 stamps, 4 red and 4 green, known to the logicians, and loosely affixes two to the forehead of each logician so that each logician can see all the other stamps except those 2 in the Grand Master's pocket and the two on her own forehead. He asks them in turn if they know the colors of their own stamps: A: "No." B: "No." C: "No." A: "No." B: "Yes." What color stamps does B have? This was also nice! :thumbup: B has red - green The explanation would take too much writing.. (for the method I used that is, maybe there are other faster methods) I'm open for discussions though. Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
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