Ok I have had enough!!!!!

[Mizzy]

There it is in its full glory and a reasonable model of it too but can we fly it...... NO WE CAN'T... I am referring to the F5 of course :)

 

No me thinks I have an idea for third party commercial development (if ED allowed it and it did not breech ubi slops contract) and its to sell an add on that has cockpits for the following:

 

F5

Su17

Mig23

Mig25

 

 

Well, if Microsoft flight boreulater can have third party development that offers just terrain at over $29 and single aircraft for not much less, surely we can have a cockpit add on for the less technical aircraft in LOMAC.

 

Now come on ED, get your marketing working and get this task out to tender. I just thought about it, how about having 'Lead Pursuit' as the development house?????

 

I expect an official answer btw cos I am very important :) Notice I have moved to influence number 1 ;) !!!

 

Many thanks

 

Mizzy

[britgliderpilot]

I think I need a chin-scratching smiley round about now . . . . . you're not actually serious, are you?

 

 

You do realise that there is much, much, much more involved in making a flyable than creating a cockpit for it?

 

You do realise that radar and weapons modelling, flight models, other miscellaneous avionics and so forth is actually pretty tricky . . . . . and very hard to research and fine-tune?

 

 

Lomac isn't MS Flight Simulator. It is not designed to be easily moddable.

[tflash]

He, Mizzy,

 

What about humancockpit=yes ?

The default Su-27 cockpit isn't that bad! And indeed ... the F-5 flies incredibly good!

[enigma6584]

F5

Su17

Mig23

Mig25

 

I for one would love to have these planes flyable. I have always been interested in the Mig-23 and 25. However, IMHO, I would not want third parties to do it unless they were strictly controlled by ED. I am a big fan and player of IL-2 along with LOCKON:FC but there are some cockpits in IL-2 I feel should never had made it into the game.

[tflash]

You really have to try editing MEInit.xml and set the value humancockpit to yes fro the F-5E. The aircraft has incredible acceleration and is really unbeatable in dogfight.

 

This brings us to the question: how accurate are the FM's for the non-flyable aircraft in Lockon? Are they at the same level as the flyables (except those with AFM of course?) Or are they rather limited?

 

The flight characteristics seem rather correct, but there seems to me to be some trust-to-weight issue. Anyway, acceleration nin F-5E and Mirage 2000-5 is stunning!

[britgliderpilot]

This brings us to the question: how accurate are the FM's for the non-flyable aircraft in Lockon? Are they at the same level as the flyables (except those with AFM of course?) Or are they rather limited?

 

"Rather limited" doesn't even begin to cover it - really.

 

They are NOT designed to be flown by humans. They are designed to be flown by the AI . . . . and the AI is very, very stupid.

[suntrace1]

Lol, that was one fun ride, can i fly it on-line :))

 

I hope that sooner or later, there will be an option of riding this older birds in LOMAC, now that would be a really great add-on.

[kdittyr]

I have done this, but have been missing from the forums for a while. Is there a way to loadout and drop bombs with "non"flyables now? I hope so because I thought that they were guns only.

[Mizzy]

I think I need a chin-scratching smiley round about now . . . . . you're not actually serious, are you?

 

 

You do realise that there is much, much, much more involved in making a flyable than creating a cockpit for it?

 

You do realise that radar and weapons modelling, flight models, other miscellaneous avionics and so forth is actually pretty tricky . . . . . and very hard to research and fine-tune?

 

 

Lomac isn't MS Flight Simulator. It is not designed to be easily moddable.

 

Brit ol'e boy, you are not truly reading (or understanding) what I write ;)

 

Of course I am fully aware of the FM saga in simulations and the AFM and the development aspect and MI5 and the SAS and the theory of cognitive dissonance.... believe me I AM :D

 

Lest did I say anything about my proposal being easy!!!! or a timeframe .... well did I??

 

Err nope, so let me continue with a bit of further debate.

 

Now the Mig29 and the Su27 (oops missed the F15 and the A10 never fly them and for no real reason :confused: don't have no fancy AFM but we still jock away with them, well I do anyway.

 

So we could have a reasonable FM on these lines could we not, I mean its been good enough since the the launch of LOMAC ;)

 

As for the cockpit development, well ED could recruit Aeyes and crew ;) Concentrate on the fidelity as being equal to the Su25 (pre 1.1) and we have a fantastic add-on product.

 

As for how long it takes emm let me see..... well it took 9 months to develop Janes USAF that was for the whole game :eek: so lets give Lead Pursuit a tidy 12 months to have the older birds in LOMAC fly with their own dedicated cockpit and a reasonable FM based on the MIg29/Su27 ethos..... oh and I will pay 29 pounds (no idea what that is in Euros butits roughly $50)

 

I mean have you seen what they charge for add-ons for Microsofts flight thingy and the FMs are .. well microsofts :D

 

Ok I want names and addresses for my idea so that I can lobby 10 Downing Street later this week!

 

Regards

 

 

Mizzy

(always a sting in my tail but never a killer!)

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I would rather have Eagle Dynamics working on optimizing FC for dual core processors! FC is not fun when FPS goes down to 10!

[paladrian]

But why only F5,Su17,Mig23 and Mig25? if we are going to dream let's not restrict ourselves, I want F-14, Av8b, F-8, F-4, Mig31, Av8b, F14 and F-15 wait, that is already in the game :rolleyes:

 

Well, the point is IMVHO these kind of suggestions are just dreams ;) (nothing bad with dreaming) and that ED already has a very good idea of what they want for their products (or at least for Lock On)