SuperKungFu Posted August 3, 2005 Posted August 3, 2005 Actually I prefer Russian birds any day of the week than Western planes. Heck I would love to see ED create the entire Flanker Family. Even if the F-16, F-18 was modeled, I would still fly the Su-27 because we rarely see these planes in action. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
T-Bone Posted August 3, 2005 Posted August 3, 2005 Did you read what I wrote? 100% of the audience would agree that there are major issues (IE MP stability) that need to take higher priority over planes for EITHER west or east markets! T-Bone [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus G72GX | CPU: Core 2 Duo Overclocked @ 2.9Ghz | Memory 6GB DDR2 | Graphics Card: nVidia GTX 260m 1GB | OS: Windows 7 Home Premium | Monitor: Samsung 32" LCD LOMAC 1.0 to FC 1.12 System RIP (2003-2010) | AMD Athlon 64 3000+ overclocked to 2565MHz | NVidia Geforce 7800 GS AGP 256 MB | 1GB Kingston PC2700 DDR DRAM | Windows 2000 with SP4
S77th-GOYA Posted August 3, 2005 Posted August 3, 2005 Fact of the matter is that 90% of the Russian Audience doesn't gvie a hoot about what 90% of the Wstern Audience gives a hoot about. Guess which Audience the addon's really being developped for. ;) Given what the CIS paid for 1.1 and what the west paid, ED would be incredibly stupid to ignore the west. Even if we had only 1/4 of the unit sales of 1.1. Or even less that 1/4 really. The 15 is supposed to get an overhaul in 1.2 isn't it?
GGTharos Posted August 3, 2005 Posted August 3, 2005 Given what the CIS paid and what the west paid, actually, we still have no clue. Anyway, I don't know if the F-15 is getting anything in 1.2, they are concentrating ont eh Ka-50 first and foremost, and -after- that comes everything else. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
BuzzU Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 Fact of the matter is that 90% of the Russian Audience doesn't gvie a hoot about what 90% of the Wstern Audience gives a hoot about. Guess which Audience the addon's really being developped for. ;) Where are you from? Buzz
S77th-GOYA Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 Given what the CIS paid and what the west paid, actually, we still have no clue. Sure we do. Every sale to a westerner gave much more working capital to ED than a sale to a CISer. Even if ED is OK with the revenue generated from only the CIS, they would be morons to ignore the potential of the rest of the world market. It's simple math. I don't think they are ignoring the west. I think it's more that their hands are somewhat tied with LOMAC. Still, no matter where you're from, you don't want your own ships firing missles at you and your AI wingmen doing a three stooges routine. I'm still waiting for the 15's nav to work correctly, I was never waiting for an Su-25T. I thought I read in the 15 avionics wishlist that some of it might be implemented in 1.2. I'm too damn lazy to re-read it all now. ;)
GGTharos Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 Might be is the right answer. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Guest Cali Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 Those comparisons are going to happen anyway. This sim screams for the F/A-18, in my opinion. Yes, it's too difficult to implement. AMEN Brother, but it can be done.
BigAnt Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 Hey all! I am new to the forum but felt that I had to reply on this thread. I personally think that the work that ED has done is incredible, especially under the circumstances. I bought LOMAC and Flaming Cliffs specifically for the Russian Aircraft. I grew up in the U.S. Air Force and am a fanatic when it comes to the F-16, F-15 and the F-22 (Gorgeous bird to see in the air). Personally I want to see more flyable Russian aircraft (Including helicopters). From what I can tell there is not many people on this thread that are posting in favor of more western aircraft so as far as the so called 90% of westerners wanting more western aircraft I guess you can put me in the 10th percentile! You guys rock ED, keep up the good work!
SUBS17 Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 Fact of the matter is that 90% of the Russian Audience doesn't gvie a hoot about what 90% of the Wstern Audience gives a hoot about. Guess which Audience the addon's really being developped for. ;) It doesn't matter either way, you still need a counter to each flyable for the opposing team to bring balance. And I bet you're wrong about cis market only wanting migs! Its exactly for this reason that FC has such a big advantage online compared to most other jet combat sims. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
VapoR Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 I personally like the idea of new features that don't necessarily require a new flyable. A redesigned mission editor, better sound engine, dedicated server, dynamic campaign. These things mean alot to me. That said, new flyables are cool too. Lomac is the best mp experience in jet sims right now, and that's because there are planes from both coalitions to fly. The problem is, we have a very unbalanced situation in this sim and it will only get more lop-sided after 1.2.
britgliderpilot Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 I personally like the idea of new features that don't necessarily require a new flyable. A redesigned mission editor, better sound engine, dedicated server, dynamic campaign. These things mean alot to me. That said, new flyables are cool too. Lomac is the best mp experience in jet sims right now, and that's because there are planes from both coalitions to fly. The problem is, we have a very unbalanced situation in this sim and it will only get more lop-sided after 1.2. I'd just like a little bit of clarification on what you mean by "unbalanced" . . . . Capabilities, or numbers of aircraft on respective sides? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
GGTharos Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 He means capabilities (I know because I talk about this with Vapor often) ... specifically the lack of a multirole or at least, fast strike fighter on the blue side with ARM-carrying capability. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
britgliderpilot Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 He means capabilities (I know because I talk about this with Vapor often) ... specifically the lack of a multirole or at least, fast strike fighter on the blue side with ARM-carrying capability. Point duly noted :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
firesoldier845 Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 FWIW, I'll take either improvements or more flyables and gladly pay for either. The game still rocks. A dedicated server is a must have IMHO though, we could use something like they have for IL2 would just be awesome. I mean think how much fun it would be to have missions to actually defend or attack ground objects just like in IL2. I mean there is a lot they can do with this sim as far as improvements go. One thing is though no matter what ED does they not going to make everyone happy. It's impossible to make everyone happy. I mean, we just have to wait and see what they come out with and just keep supporting. I wasn't crazy about SU25T either but paid for it anyway just for the other improvements and so I could still play multiplayer games. At least ED still gonna support this sim or make another one based on the code. I mean what else is there out there that even compares to LOMAC FC? Yeah F4, but it's only 1 flyable and that get's old too. I wish ED would release more info though on new game or next version just to keep people interested. I mean even weekly updates would be cool. Even though, I'm looking forward to seeing this series mature - we going to get all we want eventually. In the meantime just fly and enjoy.
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