SA-13, The deadliest threat?

[159th_Viper]

I'm guessing no, no, and no.

 

Guess again.

 

 

Not exactly ... I guess it depends on how competent your ADA is, as well as how well equipped.

 

That's the crux of it, really. Everyone assumes the dude on the ground is a wee bit 'slow/behind': Mistake #1. As the SIM does not model varying degrees of 'readiness/alertness/intelligence' etc etc insofar as MANPAD's are concerned, the current implementation is just and reasonable in the circumstances. No reason to moan when you get tagged by a MANPAD :music_whistling:

[Kenan]

^^Yeah, especially when it's night, your nav lights are off and he takes you out at 2km altitude. Perfectly normal for a single-operating MANPAD guy. Yup.

[159th_Viper]

And he's not allowed Night vision why? Because he's the little dude on the ground that's not allowed to fly the Big, Bad Plane?

 

Power to the Needle!

 

:D

[Kenan]

^^Ohh...how come I didn't think of the night vision!:doh::D

[Norman_Stansfield]

About problem with wingman commands while doing JTAC conversation or any other conversation: use keyboard shortcuts, like LWIN + G = wingman, attack ground targets, or LWIN + D = attack air defences.

 

It's more realistic than using tab key and switching menus

[Stuka]

I fire a Mav at it just I get a good lock and about 4 seconds later I see him launch a missle at me. I dont evade since the SA-8 relies on onboard vehicle guidance.

 

What if you Mav would not have destroyed the target? I would have turned away and started evasive actions

[WildBillKelsoe]

beware the Buk worm :megalol:

[snowman123]

:D

[Weta43]

It's dragging up old posts, but this statement:

 

Sorry but I would have to disagree. Seeing a fighter-sized plane with your bare eyes at 2km and especially 5km altitude is almost impossible unless you have a super vision, let alone knowing exactly where to look at, at the specific point in time.

 

I just don't get.

 

My desk at work (our office is above the ferry office in the image) looks out across the harbour at Wellington airport (where the arrow points).

 

According to that map, the airport is 5000m from my desk.

 

At that distance I can see as plain the nose on my face (plainer, 'cause I'm getting longsighted) - under pretty much any weather conditions - AirSounds' Cessna Caravans coming and going (they quite often spontaneously catch my eye as they fly their approach..)

 

Admittedly they're slower than a fighter, but they're also a whole lot smaller than any modern fighter, or an A-10.

 

(

• Cessna 208 Caravan (208B Super Cargomaster) Length: 41 ft 7 in (12.67 m), Wingspan: 52 ft 1 in (15.88 m), Height: 14 ft 2 (in 4.32 m), Cruising speed: 197 mph (317 km/h; 171 kn)

• Fairchild Republic A-10 Length: 53 ft 4 in (16.26 m, Wingspan: 57 ft 6 in (17.53 m, Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.47 m), Cruise speed: 340 mph (560 km/h, 300 knots)

• McDonnell Douglas F-15 Length: 63 ft 9 in (19.43 m), Wingspan: 42 ft 10 in (13.05 m), Height: 18 ft 6 in (5.63 m)

)

 

Regarding the discussion about finding dimes @ 20'...

 

My comment would be this: If you know roughly where it is, you'll find it - it might take seconds, it might take minutes... Now try getting a friend to tie the dime to a fishing line and keep the dime in motion. See how long it takes you to find it then.

 

Admittedly, my understanding is that the part of the brain that finds movement would work better in this case if the plane was nearer the horizon than far above it, but the effect still hold true..

Edited September 14, 2011 by Weta43

[Evil.Bonsai]

It's dragging up old posts, but this statement:

 

 

 

I just don't get.

 

My desk at work (our office is above the ferry office in the image) looks out across the harbour at Wellington airport (where the arrow points).

 

According to that map, the airport is 5000m from my desk.

 

At that distance I can see as plain the nose on my face (plainer, 'cause I'm getting longsighted) - under pretty much any weather conditions - AirSounds' Cessna Caravans coming and going (they quite often spontaneously catch my eye as they fly their approach..)

 

Admittedly they're slower than a fighter, but they're also a whole lot smaller than any modern fighter, or an A-10.

 

(

• Cessna 208 Caravan (208B Super Cargomaster) Length: 41 ft 7 in (12.67 m), Wingspan: 52 ft 1 in (15.88 m), Height: 14 ft 2 (in 4.32 m), Cruising speed: 197 mph (317 km/h; 171 kn)

• Fairchild Republic A-10 Length: 53 ft 4 in (16.26 m, Wingspan: 57 ft 6 in (17.53 m, Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.47 m), Cruise speed: 340 mph (560 km/h, 300 knots)

• McDonnell Douglas F-15 Length: 63 ft 9 in (19.43 m), Wingspan: 42 ft 10 in (13.05 m), Height: 18 ft 6 in (5.63 m)

)

 

Regarding the discussion about finding dimes @ 20'...

 

My comment would be this: If you know roughly where it is, you'll find it - it might take seconds, it might take minutes... Now try getting a friend to tie the dime to a fishing line and keep the dime in motion. See how long it takes you to find it then.

 

Admittedly, my understanding is that the part of the brain that finds movement would work better in this case if the plane was nearer the horizon than far above it, but the effect still hold true..

 

I myself don't understand the confusion. I've lived many times near air bases. I'd run outside and look for them as one type of fighter or another boomed overhead. They'd usually be a mile or more away. Not always, as they do move fast, but most times I'd spot them zooming away.

[power5]

Well this is also for recon aircraft - they're going to be flying straight in to snap a picture and leave - the A-10's got a lot more flexibility in terms of where it can go, how it's going to approach, and how it'll accomplish its mission.

 

I am not in the military but I can not believe that they tell the recon planes to just fly straight at a enemy position with manpads to take pictures. :unsure: