Alexrey Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 I was just wondering if it is possible to make a script to be able to misplace some switch positions in the cockpit so that we are essentially forced to go through the pre-flight cockpit check before takeoff to make sure that nothing is out of place. Right now I feel as though I have no need to do a pre-flight cockpit check because all the switches would have been "left" in their correct places by the ground crew or pilot who used to A-10C before me. But having to check the switches in case one was left in an incorrect position would really make me want to check everything just like a real A-10C pilot.
cichlidfan Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 I was just wondering if it is possible to make a script to be able to misplace some switch positions in the cockpit so that we are essentially forced to go through the pre-flight cockpit check before takeoff to make sure that nothing is out of place. Right now I feel as though I have no need to do a pre-flight cockpit check because all the switches would have been "left" in their correct places by the ground crew or pilot who used to A-10C before me. But having to check the switches in case one was left in an incorrect position would really make me want to check everything just like a real A-10C pilot. That's a mod that you are welcome to have, but I will pass!:D ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Snoopy Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 If you have a good crew chief your switches will be correct before you get to your jet. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
REL Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 If you have a good crew chief your switches will be correct before you get to your jet. Maybe ED should simulate the error factor for the crew chief then... :thumbup:
Frostiken Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) If you have a good crew chief your switches will be correct before you get to your jet. By correct you actually mean 'safed' right? Anyway, there's a lot of switches though that should be 'left' in place, and it would be interesting if ED could script it. For example, TACAN - the TACAN station should automatically set itself to the nearest TACAN beacon, since whoever was flying it last would've been using that one (most likely) - same for ILS. Radio frequencies as well I suppose. Edited July 18, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Snoopy Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Off, safe, and normal....only switches that aren't are bleed air and main air. But before my pilot steps to the ACFT I reset the 4 circuit breakers we pull and set the intercom panel, all four boost pumps on, and Enging gen switches on. 1 v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
RodBorza Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 If you have a good crew chief your switches will be correct before you get to your jet. And coming from the guy who deals with the "ACFT"s everyday, I just have to believe it. I didn't know that it was part of the "chiefs" job. +1 rep to you for your nice work. This is an amazing sim! 'Nuff said!:pilotfly: YouTube: SloppyDog
Alexrey Posted July 18, 2011 Author Posted July 18, 2011 Does that mean that the pilots do not need to perform a cockpit check before flicking switches?
sobek Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Does that mean that the pilots do not need to perform a cockpit check before flicking switches? I would find that rather unlikely. I'm pretty sure it's mandatory for them. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Snoopy Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 They check it's all about redundancy. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
cichlidfan Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 They check it's all about redundancy. I am sure your pilots trust you too! Training, redundancy and when the manure hits the fan their the one at angels something not the crew chief!:D ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Alexrey Posted July 19, 2011 Author Posted July 19, 2011 They check it's all about redundancy. That's why it would be nice to not treat the check at a superficial level and actually do it in case our crew chief did by mistake misplace a switch (maybe when he or she got out of the A-10 in too speedy a fashion, or was talking to someone else on the ground and had a lapse of concentration). I understand that a misplaced switch is a rarity, but knowing that all of the switches will be in their correct positions whilst doing the check just doesn't feel like I'm doing anything. All I do now is turn on the A-10C and hit the flight line ASAP without doing any of those checks because I know that nothing will be wrong.
Frostiken Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 I am sure your pilots trust you too! Hah. I've had pilots openly question the advice I've given them during redballs when it's clear they don't even know what they're arguing about. The best is when they ask "Can I talk to a 7-level?" and I get to point out that I'm the lead tech for the shift. Also, pilots think everyone is a crew chief. Avionics? "What's up chief." "Are you the radar chief?" "Yeah is there a weapons chief around?" WTF STOP CALLING ME A KNUCKLEDRAGGER! I don't like pilots very much :/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Eddie Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Also, pilots think everyone is a crew chief. Avionics? "What's up chief." "Are you the radar chief?" "Yeah is there a weapons chief around?" WTF STOP CALLING ME A KNUCKLEDRAGGER! Makes me glad we don't have crew chiefs. We give that job to the most junior people on fast jet sqns. I don't like pilots very much :/ Does anyone who has to work with them?
BlueRidgeDx Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 LOL... You don't like pilots so much, you pretend to be one in your free time? So to paraphrase: "I don't like pilots because they think they're better than me! Also, I'm better than a lowly crew chief, so stop calling me one! Grrrrrr!" Haha! "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams
Frostie Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Perhaps a mod with a 0.5% fail rate should necessitate the need to do checks in the sim. 0.1% if its a Welsh crew and CTD if its Irish. j/k :D "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Frostiken Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) "I don't like pilots because they think they're better than me! Also, I'm better than a lowly crew chief, so stop calling me one! Grrrrrr!" "Hey chief, I dropped my pencil." *Pilot walks off to debrief and leaves the crew chief / B-man to find the pencil HE lost* *Once in debrief* "Oh hey, I had a radio problem. I occasionally received broken transmissions on radio 1. Uh... let's see... I'll write that up as a code 3 'zero transmit or receive on radio 1 for entire sortie'. Oh and my DTM recorded a minor fault in RWR... um... 'DTM reported 04152 fault, pilot confirmed fault'. Yeah, now let's go to the bar!". - Dropping FOD in the cockpit and not even bothering to TRY to help search for it. - Lying on the recap to try to coax a fix for a minor code 2 problem. - Writing things up on the recap in the most asinine and unhelpful fashion possible. Did you get any spikes? Nails? Detail fails? No? Couldn't bother to spend 5 seconds typing that in? Guess what, I'm not going to spend the 30 minutes to run it up. CND. And not being associated with a crew chief is more along the lines of why an astronomer would get offended if you asked him for a horoscope. But ah, not all crew chiefs are that bad :) Weapons troops though....... :D Edited July 19, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Alexrey Posted July 19, 2011 Author Posted July 19, 2011 Probably seen by most of you, but appropriate:
flipGAF Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 two things: -PITOT HEAT :D -FO :D -both costs beers Der Wille entscheidet
Harzach Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Oh, by the way, chief - I missed my piddle pack, so you might want to grab some towels. OK, have a good one!
Snoopy Posted July 19, 2011 Posted July 19, 2011 Hell no, every pilot who has left a puddle pack I told he needs to jump back up and get it. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
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