WildBillKelsoe Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Ahoy fine gentlemen! I wanted to know whether or not I could slew the maverick's seeker to the TGP point of interest, definitely in a 30 degree arc forward, for AREA and POINT track modes to improve accuracy. Another question is, when I was playing last night, I selected CCIP CR 3/9 IFFCC mode, and then the reticle of the bomb changed to a cross. How do I revert it back to the reticle/pipper? I mean I tried setting HUD as SOI, toggled the many HOTAS master modes but only CCRP and cannon got this reticle. Is this a bug from sustained flying? Worth noting that I flew to IP (Ingress point) and orbited to use the TGP to locate tanks and anti air, prior to using the mavericks, which is a real pain to use given the ground stabilize feature that almost immediately breaks off upon slewing the seeker head. Also, how do I switch the maverick from BHOT to WHOT? And isnt that limited to the non H and K variants (IR white)? AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
MTFDarkEagle Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Sure! The SPI is a general point in space that is accessable via all the SOI's. China forward long to slave all to your SPI. On your last Q: You cannot, each MAV is either with "FLIR" or TV. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
KillaALF Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 I wanted to know whether or not I could slew the maverick's seeker to the TGP point of interest, definitely in a 30 degree arc forward, for AREA and POINT track modes to improve accuracy. Chinahat forward long slaves all sensors to SPI, including mavs. Also, how do I switch the maverick from BHOT to WHOT? You don't/can't, you can only change the symbology from black to white via boatswitch.
WildBillKelsoe Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Sure! The SPI is a general point in space that is accessable via all the SOI's. China forward long to slave all to your SPI. On your last Q: You cannot, each MAV is either with "FLIR" or TV. I meant the ones that are flir, shouldnt I be able to change the flir mode from Black hot to White hot? I wonder how to do that? I tried boat switch right and left Ralt --> and <-- but only the crosshairs changed not the seeker image itself Edit: Sniped! Edited August 3, 2011 by WildBillKelsoe AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
MTFDarkEagle Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Yes: you can only change the symbology (i.e. the crosshair and that). Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
ED Team Olgerd Posted August 3, 2011 ED Team Posted August 3, 2011 I meant the ones that are flir, shouldnt I be able to change the flir mode from Black hot to White hot? I wonder how to do that? I tried boat switch right and left Ralt --> and <-- but only the crosshairs changed not the seeker image itself Edit: Sniped! Actually the crosshairs color only means what maverick will track as hot spot - black hot or white hot. In the game it only helps you to not loose crosshairs on the background, i.e. tracker will not account this. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич.
nomdeplume Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Also note that 'slave all sensors to SPI' (i.e. china hat fwd long) will only slave the Maverick seeker if it's active, i.e. being displayed on one of your MFCDs. If it's in standby then the seeker won't be slewed. Easiest option is to issue the slave all only after you've got the Maverick set as the SOI and a Maverick weapons profile selected.
ED Team Olgerd Posted August 3, 2011 ED Team Posted August 3, 2011 Also note that 'slave all sensors to SPI' (i.e. china hat fwd long) will only slave the Maverick seeker if it's active, i.e. being displayed on one of your MFCDs. If it's in standby then the seeker won't be slewed. Easiest option is to issue the slave all only after you've got the Maverick set as the SOI and a Maverick weapons profile selected. However to slave mav to SPI it is not necessary to set it SPI, or to select profile. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич.
fragged Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Little OT: OP, please stop using any additional text decoration or different fonts. Thanks.
Brutal Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 How many threads are there just like this one?. Honestly though, I still learn something everytime its brought up.
WildBillKelsoe Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Certainly, set TGP as SPI generator and CHFL to slave all sensors to SPI. Using AREA or POINT modes won't improve accuracy noticeably (well POINT is nice for moving targets). INR is fine, even if the TGP can't see the target the point of interest will be plenty accurate for pointing a Mav. The cross was the gun cross. It shows up in CCIP if you have the cannon armed. The CCIP PBIL/reticle is only visible when wings level and in at least a 5 degree dive with a CCIP-compatible weapon profile active. Hey thanks slacker. one thing though, the tgp. Do I have to designate the target for the maverick to lock on, or would the fov of the tgp be the target? In other words, when I press V long (CHFL), I always get the target waypoint in all sensors, but if I focus on a target and then press V long, same thing happens, both TGP and mav refocus on the waypoint rather than target. Pressing TMS UP(or is it down?) locks the target and sets it as SPI? Sorry for being moronic for the moment:( And about mission briefing, the item cloud cover is it pertinent to enemy ground units spotting ability? How do I use that information, attackwise? Edited August 3, 2011 by WildBillKelsoe AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
159th_Viper Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 In other words, when I press V long (CHFL), I always get the target waypoint in all sensors, but if I focus on a target and then press V long, same thing happens, both TGP and mav refocus on the waypoint rather than target.... China Hat Fwd Long slaves all your sensors to the SPI. Look in the bottom-left of the HUD for an indication of the current SPI-Generator. In your case as above it will be STPT for Steerpoint, ie the default SPI is always the current steerpoint and the reason your TGP and Mav are slaving to a waypoint rather than the target. Pressing TMS UP(or is it down?) locks the target and sets it as SPI? Sorry for being moronic for the moment:( TMS Fwd (Up) Long sets the SPI, depending on which sensor you are using to designate the SPI - bottom left of HUD to confirm. TMS Fwd Short tracks/engages point-track mode. For precision-strikes always ensure you have the target in Point-track mode via BHOT/WHOT (increases the range of effective tracking) prior to designating the SPI, especially when designating from a fair distance/slant angle etc etc. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
WildBillKelsoe Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 China Hat Fwd Long slaves all your sensors to the SPI. Look in the bottom-left of the HUD for an indication of the current SPI-Generator. In your case as above it will be STPT for Steerpoint, ie the default SPI is always the current steerpoint and the reason your TGP and Mav are slaving to a waypoint rather than the target. TMS Fwd (Up) Long sets the SPI, depending on which sensor you are using to designate the SPI - bottom left of HUD to confirm. TMS Fwd Short tracks/engages point-track mode. For precision-strikes always ensure you have the target in Point-track mode via BHOT/WHOT (increases the range of effective tracking) prior to designating the SPI, especially when designating from a fair distance/slant angle etc etc. Kudos to you Viper! This will do. Grazie mille ;) AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
159th_Viper Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Why do you say this? Depending on range/slant angle/TGP crosshair placement etc etc, the TGP LOS could very well be a point off-set by 3-4 metres from the intended target. Granted, in general circumstances one could argue that it presents a reasonable CEP: However, with certain ordinance against certain targets 3-4 metres might as well be a mile. Point-track removes any doubt from the equation. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Harzach Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 It was my understanding that, as slant angle increases, Area Track becomes less accurate, as it is not "seeing" the object you are targeting but the ground beyond. At acute slant angles, this could place your SPI quite a ways away from the intended target. I could swear that either Wags or Tyger had a video of this up on YouTube...
159th_Viper Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 It was my understanding that, as slant angle increases, Area Track becomes less accurate, as it is not "seeing" the object you are targeting but the ground beyond. At acute slant angles, this could place your SPI quite a ways away from the intended target For the purposes of the SIM, you are 100% correct :thumbup: Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Harzach Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 For the purposes of the SIM, you are 100% correct :thumbup: By which, I take it, you mean that it is different IRL?
Harzach Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 Awesome, thanks for the clarification, Slacker. Found the video, as well.
Harzach Posted August 4, 2011 Posted August 4, 2011 Don't mean to react so harshly. I just get passionate about the info :) No worries! I don't take matter-of-factness personally...:thumbup:
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