rextar Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 http://sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=904 just listern to the stress on this airframe + LOOK at these vortexes!!!! :joystick: Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
Frostiken Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) What a clumsy-ass takeoff. By the way, he's flying completely slick - don't expect to pull maneuvers anywhere close to that in "reality" :p What I found interesting is that the cockpit is modded for JHMCS but he doesn't even have a JHMCS helmet. Not that he'd need it for an aerial demonstration, but wouldn't all their helmets be modded for it? Edited August 13, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
rextar Posted August 13, 2011 Author Posted August 13, 2011 What a clumsy-ass takeoff. By the way, he's flying completely slick - don't expect to pull maneuvers anywhere close to that in "reality" :p What I found interesting is that the cockpit is modded for JHMCS but he doesn't even have a JHMCS helmet. Not that he'd need it for an aerial demonstration, but wouldn't all their helmets be modded for it? In reality .... Hello ive just watched him perform them! 1 Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
Agg Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 What a clumsy-ass takeoff. By the way, he's flying completely slick - don't expect to pull maneuvers anywhere close to that in "reality" :p What I found interesting is that the cockpit is modded for JHMCS but he doesn't even have a JHMCS helmet. Not that he'd need it for an aerial demonstration, but wouldn't all their helmets be modded for it?Dont really see what's clumsy about that take off... You rarely see display pilots flying with JHMCS helmets as there is no point in it, and considering that the JHMCS helmet is quite a bit heavier than the normal crash helmet its going to put much more strain on the pilot's neck.
rextar Posted August 13, 2011 Author Posted August 13, 2011 Dont really see what's clumsy about that take off... You rarely see display pilots flying with JHMCS helmets as there is no point in it, and considering that the JHMCS helmet is quite a bit heavier than the normal crash helmet its going to put much more strain on the pilot's neck. +1 a JHMCS helmet isnt what u want on during a display. Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
Eddie Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 In reality .... Hello ive just watched him perform them! Indeed, in an aircraft set up for an air display. ie, without ordnance and carrying minimum fuel. You won't be doing that in an aircraft ready for a combat sortie.
Frostiken Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Indeed, in an aircraft set up for an air display. ie, without ordnance and carrying minimum fuel. You won't be doing that in an aircraft ready for a combat sortie. Additionally, it probably doesn't even have the pylons on. For the real demonstration aircraft ie: the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels they're missing a lot of innards too. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
leafer Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Yeah, the stress put on the frame. I'd love to see that modeled, some day, in DCS: xxxx. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Nu-NRG Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) By the way, he's flying completely slick - don't expect to pull maneuvers anywhere close to that in "reality" :p Airframes are limited to max 6-7G except in war times. http://sonicbomb.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=904 just listern to the stress on this airframe + LOOK at these vortexes!!!! After all that spinning and changing directions, damn, the landing seems like the most easy part! :D Edited August 13, 2011 by Nu-NRG Aviate - Navigate - Communicate
Agg Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Indeed, in an aircraft set up for an air display. ie, without ordnance and carrying minimum fuel. You won't be doing that in an aircraft ready for a combat sortie.Of course not, but what does that have to do with anything? I was at RIAT 2009, where this video was filmed, and I have to give it to the Finns, they really know how to show off the Bug. The Swiss Hornet demo is great as well, the Yanks could really learn something about display flying from them ;)
Frostiken Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Airframes are limited to max 6-7G except in war times. Whoever told you that lied to you... Edited August 13, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
rextar Posted August 13, 2011 Author Posted August 13, 2011 Yeah, the stress put on the frame. I'd love to see that modeled, some day, in DCS: xxxx. Thats the reson i posted it! :megalol: Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
rextar Posted August 13, 2011 Author Posted August 13, 2011 Whoever told you that lied to you... +1 Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
leafer Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 I was resonating ur thought out loud. :D ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Impact Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Airframes are limited to max 6-7G except in war times. Thats not true. Ever seen air race competitions? I dont think there are rules which disqualify you if you get over 7 G. ------=:: I FLY BLEIFREI ::=------
rextar Posted August 13, 2011 Author Posted August 13, 2011 Thats not true. Ever seen air race competitions? I dont think there are rules which disqualify you if you get over 7 G. Nah only if you hit to many gates!:lol: Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
Nu-NRG Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Airforce and navy imposes G limit to extend airframe (I know of F14, F15 and F18) lifetime. Or to quote Instapinch the former RIO. but we did get told that if we did it again, the next flight would be without g-suits.For pulling 10G when limit was less than 6.5G Aviate - Navigate - Communicate
Frostiken Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) For pulling 10G when limit was less than 6.5G Well no shit - the F-14 and F/A-18 have a maximum G-limit of 7 - the F-14 might be even lower. 10Gs is well over the design specs and most likely *did* cause severe damage. A Level 1 Over-G isn't bad, you just have to inspect a few things, but a Level 3 Over-G (which would be the result of 10Gs in a Navy airframe) means the jet basically has to be dismantled and go to NDI. It's not flying for a very long time. In fact, 10Gs on a 7G airframe could result in the entire thing having legit damage on longerons and being scrapped. Someone pulling 10Gs may have done as much damage as far as the Navy sees it as simply putting it in the dirt. So I think just about every Navy aircraft is limited to 7Gs because that's the structural limit, so saying they shouldn't exceed is logical. Don't Over-G your jet (which is what 7+ would be, a legit Over-G event). But this is patently untrue for the USAF and wouldn't even make sense. The airframes are rated much higher, up to 9Gs, so saying the Navy can fly their aircraft to 95% their G-load while the USAF can only fly them to 70% is moronic. Secondly, your G-limit, especially in 'wartime' is going to be a lot lower than 7/9, because lots of fuel, external tanks, missiles, bombs, pods, etc. all reduce your G-limit. A fully-loaded F-15E could Over-G by pulling 4Gs, so saying they're artificially limited during peacetime to a rating that would NOT cause an over-G event is stupid. Doubly-so, the only way to measure this would be the honor system, since the only time pilots report over-G events is when it's a legit over-G. Pulling 6-7Gs in a slick F-15 wouldn't register an over-G event and therefore... it doesn't count. So finally, with your theory in tatters, let me finally add that the F-15 has a G-counter inside door 6R that charts how much time was spent at how many Gs. Every aircraft has spent more time pulling 7+ Gs than 6-7Gs. So unless the system is lying to us... Edited August 14, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
genbrien Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 would the pilots be punished if they over-g ? I supose that yes, but can it go as far as a suspension? Do you think that getting 9 women pregnant will get you a baby in 1 month?[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe Monitor: Lg 22'' 1920*1080 CPU: i7 2600k@ 4.8Ghz +Zalman CNPS9900 max Keyboard: Logitech G15 GPU:GTX 980 Strix Mouse: Sidewinder X8 PSU: Corsair TX750w Gaming Devices: Saytek X52, TrackIr5 RAM: Mushkin 2x4gb ddr3 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz Case: 690 SSD: Intel X25m 80gb
digitaljjd Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 would the pilots be punished if they over-g ? I supose that yes, but can it go as far as a suspension? This would be very unlikely to happen, the pilots would never exceed their G-limits, because if they did, they could face summary execution by the all knowing Frostiken, at the very least, he would call them stupid and use Agonizers on the entire squadron as punishment. :smilewink:
Nu-NRG Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 I stand corrected. Aviate - Navigate - Communicate
rextar Posted August 15, 2011 Author Posted August 15, 2011 This would be very unlikely to happen, the pilots would never exceed their G-limits, because if they did, they could face summary execution by the all knowing Frostiken, at the very least, he would call them stupid and use Agonizers on the entire squadron as punishment. :smilewink: I think we are going off topic here. Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
Frostiken Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 Well this is like the third thread about this in only a week or so, so who really cares? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
104th_Crunch Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 Yeah, the stress put on the frame. I'd love to see that modeled, some day, in DCS: xxxx. Great video. Yes an animation where the wings jiggle under high G would be excellent!
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