Easy zoom method...

[soupyc]

Hey guys, I have a Saitek X-52 Pro. Currently I have the profile set up to use the scroll wheel on the throttle to zoom in and out (each click is a / or a * on the numpad). Curious if anyone has a better way to do this? I have to really crank on the wheel to get it to move. Thanks in advance! Soup

[HiJack]

I use this settings with the Slider and that works fine :D

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1122562&postcount=13

 

(HJ)

[soupyc]

Damn, I use my slider for speed brakes. Could that be adapted to the scroll wheel? I don't suppose so as its not an axis...

[gizmo]

Hi Hijack,

 

I would like to have your profile for the zoom too but can't seem to see clearly.Would you mind enlarging your screenshot please?

 

Thank you

[rud]

I use the slider with a very similar curve to the one posted by HiJack, but mine's actually a little more square at the ends:

 

 

 

And no, making the scrollwheel speed break would be difficult, since it needs to be held down for a bit of time to actually deploy/retract fully. It's great for switches though, I use mine for the boat switch.

 

You could use the scroll wheel button (not scrolling, but pushing it inward like the middle mouse button) and pinky + wheel button to retract or something. In my profile I happen to use the D button on the throttle for speed break with pinky + D to retract.

[cichlidfan]

I used the same for speed brake on my X-52. It turns out to be very natural and convenient.

[soupyc]

I use the slider with a very similar curve to the one posted by HiJack, but mine's actually a little more square at the ends:

 

 

 

And no, making the scrollwheel speed break would be difficult, since it needs to be held down for a bit of time to actually deploy/retract fully. It's great for switches though, I use mine for the boat switch.

 

You could use the scroll wheel button (not scrolling, but pushing it inward like the middle mouse button) and pinky + wheel button to retract or something. In my profile I happen to use the D button on the throttle for speed break with pinky + D to retract.

 

Well, maybe then I'll tweak, all things considered. I use my rotary + pinky for radios right now, but the boat switch sounds like a way better use for it than the zoom. Thanks for the input!

[aces_full85]

I like to use the four way hat on the throttle as my zoom in and out. I'm using a slightly modified version of Jackbauer's profile and it lets me use the pinky switch as a modifier.

 

It's been pretty natural for me to use pinky switch + hat foward/back to zoom in or out, respectively. It's kinda nice because you just press the hat either direction to work the zoom--no frantic scrolling necessary.

[Topo]

I use the wheel around the "E" button

[Jimmytime]

I use RagTags Saitek profile that uses the Pinky Shift and TMS/DMS when TGP is SOI. Highly recommend the profile, very well done.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=58795&highlight=.pr0

 

Opps, misunderstood. I use TrackIR which again I highly recommend!

Edited September 17, 2011 by Jimmytime
Misunderstood

[soupyc]

Oh I have a TIR, but that doesnt change the FOV on the HUD...zoom makes it 'bigger' whereas moving forward on the TIR doesn't change the size of the HUD symbology. :D I'm gonna try the rotary around the E button...I forgot it had those, to be honest :lol:

[PeterP]

Edit: this Macro is a example for a Thrustmaster-Cougar

-but following the rules I post here,

you should be able to do it also on a X52 :

 

Why don't use a macro for zoom-in/zoom-out instead of a slider and also automate the zoom in some kind of way?

 

This is what I did on my cougar:

 

BTN TG1  /P KD(p) <KD(KP*) DLY(800) KU(KP*)> 

             /R KU(p) <KD(KP/) DLY(800) KU(KP/)>

Explanation what this macro does:

 

KU = Key up

KD = Key down

DLY(800) = Delay-:hold the state that is posted before this "DLY" command for 800 millisecond (0.8sec) before execute the next state - as long the initial button is pressed

(KP/) - (KP*) = corresponding key-press on the num-pad : "*" and "/" - this is zoom-in and zoom-out in DCS A-10c

<> = what's between this brackets will be executed even if the button is released before the delay is timed out.

KU(p)-KD(p) = Key up "p" -Key down "p" : this initiate and releases the PAC1 state in DCS A-10c

 

I have this on the first stage of my trigger and it zooms in for 0.8sec and also enters the PAC-1 state.

When I release the trigger it releases the PAC-1 and zooms out for 0.8sec .

(Similar like gunsight in IL2)

And there should be no problem to do the same with the SST programming software with a advanced programming script using time marks.

And you can also put it on a rotary or slider using bands (edit: ) on your X52.

This is very helpful while aiming at the target.

-and after I have fired the guns/rockets I will get back to my default zoom without having to fiddle around with a over-sensitive slider/rotary.

 

And I also use this to get a better look to the Mav/TGP image of the MFCDs when lookong into the cockpit and use it when I'm in the need of binoculars.

 

And you can also use a Toggle modifier (/T) instead the press/release (/P,/R).

But having it on the first stage trigger feels most natural to me.

 

Edit:

How to do this for a Saitek Controller:

I wanted to check what I have wrote and see that it works in the SST . I was pleased to see that I haven't told absolute BullS*** to you:

 

So I made a video that explains my macro in the SST and shows how it reacts if set to the stage1 trigger.

(I programmed it on a Saítek-Throttle-Quadrant - so I have no profile for a X52 to share.)

Sorry for the German layout - but if you a smart-guy you will have no problems to follow the steps.

Edited September 21, 2011 by PeterP

[LuiAD]

Hello Peter. Your method sounds very interesting. Is macro a seperate program? Could you explain how this works please? I would give this a try as i am also having trouble with the zoom.

Thanks

[HiJack]

Peter is talking about his cougar witch is totally different from the X52!

[PeterP]

Peter is talking about his cougar witch is totally different from the X52!

 

Its not sooo different - it uses only another syntax. - This is doable on a X52...

And there should be no problem to do the same with the SST programming software with a advanced programming script using time marks.

And you can also put it on a rotary or slider using bands.

You need to do a advanced programming in the SST program that follows the rules I posted explaining my macro (edit : ) for my TM-Cougar. Edited September 19, 2011 by PeterP

[PeterP]

Hello Peter. Your method sounds very interesting. Is macro a seperate program? Could you explain how this works please? I would give this a try as i am also having trouble with the zoom.

Thanks

 

A macro is not a separate program -a macro defines: what happens if !

This term (macro) is used when you execute one state (for example: press a button) and other inputs will be executed automatic - without to make any further interaction...

This definition what a button does is programmed in the SST programming software on a X52.

Try this obscure application to find out more! link ;)

EDIT: Thanks for the question! - I edited my initial post to make it more "user friendly".

Edited September 20, 2011 by PeterP

[audax]

I use one button for zooming on my throttle. As long as I push the button I zoom in and as soon as I release it the zoom resets to default. I set this command in my x52 SST programming software.

And because I only need to zoom in completely or not at all this works just fine.

[PeterP]

Hello Peter. Your method sounds very interesting. Is macro a seperate program? Could you explain how this works please? I would give this a try as i am also having trouble with the zoom.

Thanks

I wanted to check what I have wrote and see that it works in the SST . I was pleased to see that I haven't told absolute BullS*** to you:

 

So I made a video that explains my macro in the SST and shows how it reacts if set to the stage1 trigger.

(I programmed it on a Saítek-Throttle-Quadrant - so I have no profile for a X52 to share.)

Sorry for the German layout - but if you a smart-guy you will have no problems to follow the steps.

Edited September 21, 2011 by PeterP

[effte]

Oh I have a TIR, but that doesnt change the FOV on the HUD...zoom makes it 'bigger' whereas moving forward on the TIR doesn't change the size of the HUD symbology. :D

 

When you configure TIR Z-axis to control zoom (FOV) rather than longitudinal head position as per default, it will do just that... and you have to do it! It's one of those things where there is just No Going Back once you try!

 

Forget anything else mentioned in this thread if you have TIR.

 

If you don't have TIR, sell the cat. ;)

[nomdeplume]

When you configure TIR Z-axis to control zoom (FOV) rather than longitudinal head position as per default, it will do just that... and you have to do it! It's one of those things where there is just No Going Back once you try!

Hmm... I tried it and went back. :)

[pixelpilot]

Hi mate. I have x52 pro. My zoom is set up on one of the thumb mouse axis on the throttle. You have to use the programming software to set the mouse function with 3 bands (middle band unassigned to give a nice big deadzone) then the bands at either extreme assigned to the / and * keys. I just get way to much spikey inputs from my joystick to use any analog input for zoom

[kungfoo]

I use now use a curve that is very similar to the one suggested and it f'ing rocks! Thanks for the suggestion!!

[HiJack]

Yes, I have also changed my settings to a all over 50% line. It is now excelent :D

 

I did the same changes in DCS BS and all the aircrafts in FC2 and it works great.

 

(HJ)

[effte]

Hmm... I tried it and went back. :)

 

That post made me think of this picture...

 

 

;)