About approach & departure procedures in DCSW

[isaac18]

In the A-10C manual,the chapter about approach and landing is just too simple! I can never complete a standardized approach and landing or to fly a traffic pattern using these very little informations. Compare to Open Falcon，in which approach and departure charts are provided, DCSW is just completely lacking some charts like this. I'm looking for approach & departure charts for several major Airbases in DCS such as Batumi or Senaki, so anyone have any information? Or there's already an existing document? I want to know, thanks!

[GGTharos]

You're flying a fighter in combat, not an airliner in peace time. You don't need FAA-regulated charts.

 

If for some reason you really do want to fly those patterns, you might be able to find some free stuff on the internet.

[cichlidfan]

I just approach and then circle until I can turn onto the correct heading for the runway at about 7 nm out and 2000' AGL then aim for the black marks. Not very scientific but it gets me on the ground in one piece.:P

[masterk]

For what it's worth, Jeppesen simcharts, made for MS flight simulator, contain charts for a few of the airports in DCS, and should work fine. They have discontinued the program though, so no idea where you can get them now. Alternatively, try http://www.fscharts.com. GGTharos is probably right tho, I doubt that military and civilian aviation charts are the same.

[AlphaOneSix]

I doubt that military and civilian aviation charts are the same.

 

The military doesn't have their own airport charts, they use the civilian ones.

[MTFDarkEagle]

Check here:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=73419

[isaac18]

Thanks a lot. In fact I have the GNDchart made by Virtual Jaborg, but it's just an airport plane diagram, and does not include IFR approach procedure. on the first page they said "approach and departure procedures can be found in a separate chart package", so I guess that's only for internal use. The problem is informations about Georgia airports are so hard to find, or I maybe able to creat my own IFR charts.

[Eddie]

Overhead Break, the main approach method used my small military aircraft, and much more fun to fly than the airliner IFR approaches.

 

Knowing and practicing the ILS approaches is something you still need to do imo, but day to day OHB is the way forwards.

[isaac18]

Yes, as flying a combat plane, OHB makes a lot of sence, or even some battle break landing, lots of fun...But I guess fighter pilots will still carry approach charts in the task:)

[xifu]

Try this web... http://aviadocs.net/AIP/html/eng.htm

 

- Aip aeronautical info

- AD Part III

- AD 2 aerodromes

 

There are some interesting charts ;)

[Eddie]

Yes, as flying a combat plane, OHB makes a lot of sence, or even some battle break landing, lots of fun...But I guess fighter pilots will still carry approach charts in the task:)

 

 

Depends if they will be using civilian airfields I'd say, no point carrying approach charts in Afghanistan if you'll only ever do tactical OHB for example.

[AlphaOneSix]

Most military jets do overhead breaks in A-stan, but there is a ton of civilian traffic at the airfield. And by "the airfield" I mean any airfield with a runway. Non-jets normally don't do overhead breaks, military or civilian. They generally do approaches just like in the civilian world. All aircraft will normally have approach charts, even fighters, just in case they need to reference them for frequencies, etc.

[Laud]

You also need them to know your entry/exit points to fly into or out of the CTR! You need them to know in which direction you have to fly the pattern (left or right hand). You need them to gather airfield information like RWY length/width, elevation, ...

 

Don't say millitary doesn't use approach charts. But you're right saying they do VFR approaches and not IFR (as long as visibility allows).

 

However: It won't take too long anymore till our chart package will be released... ;)

[Laud]

Just posted new previews: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1305812&postcount=83

[isaac18]

VFR approsch chart! Great work! Look forward to seeing your chart:thumbup:

[DUSTY]

It's actually quite common for Mil operators to use their own IFR approach charts. In Australia we have our own Military AIP (Aeronautical Information Package) which contains IFR approach charts for IFR Departures specific to military aircraft. Along with this are TACAN and ILS/HI ILS approach charts. These are of course used for IMC conditions and training. That said these charts are normally only found at Military bases, not civil airports.

 

Afghanistan is a good example of having Military IFR approaches at civil airports. (http://www.motca.gov.af/index.php?id=77)

 

Note the TACAN Approach for RWY29 at Kabul Intl. Civillian aircraft do not have TACAN equipment to my knowledge so i'm quite confident that they are military exclusive approaches. The Civil jets would use the VOR/DME approach in this case.

 

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