EaglePryde Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Does anyone know where to get a dowload Version of LOMAC? Seems as if it's the only thing i can't find and i need it for FC2 :cry: Not even UBISOFT seems to sell it on their site. Seems in the Future i guess it will also be needed to upgrade up till FC3. A bit unpracticle to have FC2 need LOMAC as "needed" installation.
PeterP Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) No Download available - only Hard-copy: >>>Lock on buying, really confused?? Something I like to add - explanation why you (and also probably many others) are confused: As Eagle Dynamics was developing LockOn 9 years ago , UBISoft was the publisher an owner of LockOn. Up to now Eagle Dynamics/TFC doesn't owns any rights for re-releasing Lockon or offering it as Download.. But they made a agreement with UBI that they can use parts of the code in DCS. ( or something like that ) But FC still can't be offered as a stand-alone product by ED/TFC without LockOn. That's why we have to keep a copy of UBI's LockOn to be able to install FlamingCliffs . And I see it as a spectacular negotiation success of ED/TFC with UBISoft that we are able to buy LockOn+FC2 in a single box Some more trivia: That's also the main reason why DCS was invented. -BlackShark was first planed as a add-on for LockOn-FC . This was a official teaser screen-shot for BlackShark back than - and look what's written in the upper-left corner: Edited February 29, 2012 by PeterP
sobek Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 A bit unpracticle to have FC2 need LOMAC as "needed" installation. Unfortunately this is a necessity, as Ubisoft still owns the rights to LOMAC, therefore, any add on that is based on the series can not be made stand alone by ED. It would be a breech of contract. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
EaglePryde Posted February 29, 2012 Author Posted February 29, 2012 Hmm..Let's say i hope that FC3 won't have this need. I just see Problems for future players that could have problems of even getting the old LOMAC title.
PeterP Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Hmm..Let's say i hope that FC3 won't have this need. I just see Problems for future players that could have problems of even getting the old LOMAC title. Yes - this problems exist - LockOn Platinum was/is a clever workaround for this. And believe me- this isn't intended by ED/TFC ... Hmm... To be more clearly on this mater: If there wouldn't be the agreement between UBI-SOFT an ED/TFC no one would ever see a upgrade to to FC. Because FC is a upgrade to LockOn. No LockOn = No FC So please blame UBI-Soft that they don't offer a digital download for LockON. There is no easy workaround to make FC a "stand alone product" ... Hmm... until you want UBI-SOFT as a publisher for this Upgrade. (... but how would call for a big fat crocodile if you are looking for a babysitter...?! :D) This is (as sad as it may sound) the only way ED/FTC can make further development for FC = needing a program from UBI-SOFT (and also paying them) to be able to use this upgrade. BTW - ever tried to install BMS?... Edited February 29, 2012 by PeterP
Prolixite Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 They've recently allowed me to re-download a Lock On purchase I made prior to X-mas: the game is still available via digital download from what I've seen (in Canada at least). I had lost the install files after a OS upgrade, support was very kind in allowing me to download it again past the initial 1 month. Canada store here: http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_CA/search/vars.false?q=lock+on Hopefully it is available in other countries. Cheers,
EaglePryde Posted February 29, 2012 Author Posted February 29, 2012 Yes - this problems exist - LockOn Platinum was/is a clever workaround for this. And believe me- this isn't intended by ED/TFC ... Hmm... To be more clearly on this mater: If there wouldn't be the agreement between UBI-SOFT an ED/TFC no one would ever see a upgrade to to FC. Because FC is a upgrade to LockOn. No LockOn = No FC So please blame UBI-Soft that they don't offer a digital download for LockON. There is no easy workaround to make FC a "stand alone product" ... Hmm... until you want UBI-SOFT as a publisher for this Upgrade. (... but how would call for a big fat crocodile if you are looking for a babysitter...?! :D) This is (as sad as it may sound) the only way ED/FTC can make further development for FC = needing a program from UBI-SOFT (and also paying them) to be able to use this upgrade. BTW - ever tried to install BMS?... Yeah i know. Sadly it's UBI's call. If by BMS your talking about the Falcon 4.0 BMS then yes i have it and even FreeFalcon 5.5.5. Oh well. Im a nerd if it comes to realistic combat simulations and i love their Dynamic Campaign
PeterP Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah i know. Sadly it's UBI's call. If by BMS your talking about the Falcon 4.0 BMS then yes i have it and even FreeFalcon 5.5.5. Oh well. Im a nerd if it comes to realistic combat simulations and i love their Dynamic Campaign ;) so did you also asked the BMS team why you still have to keep a Falcon copy?! :D;)
StoOopiD Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 so how much woould it cost to have FC2? Lock-on + upgrades [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Crosshair VIII hero wifi, 3800x w/ Enermax 360 AIO cooler (push-pull), 32gigs DDR4 Ripjaws 3600, Win 10 home on a Plextor PCI-E x4 3gb/s HD, EVGA 2070 Super FTW3 ultra+, Soundblaster Z Rift S, M$FFB2, CH Pro throttle, Saitek pedals BS2, A10C, P51D, SPITFIRE, FC3, Uh-1H, F86, Mi-8MTV2, SA342, MIG21-bis, AV8BNA, F14, F16, FA-18C, SUPERCARRIER
joey45 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 As far as I know the Russian/CIS release isn't ubisoft but 1c... If I win the lottery then I'm buying LOMAC off Ubisoft... Because I'm like that and I care. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
cichlidfan Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 so how much woould it cost to have FC2? Lock-on + upgrades Lock On Platinum ==> Lock On Disc & Flaming Cliffs 2 Disc in one box Amazon US $18.71 ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
StoOopiD Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) i found that amazon.com has LOMAC CD for $13.50 or LO Platinum DVD for $18.74 i bought the Platinum DVD. Edited March 1, 2012 by StoOopiD ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Crosshair VIII hero wifi, 3800x w/ Enermax 360 AIO cooler (push-pull), 32gigs DDR4 Ripjaws 3600, Win 10 home on a Plextor PCI-E x4 3gb/s HD, EVGA 2070 Super FTW3 ultra+, Soundblaster Z Rift S, M$FFB2, CH Pro throttle, Saitek pedals BS2, A10C, P51D, SPITFIRE, FC3, Uh-1H, F86, Mi-8MTV2, SA342, MIG21-bis, AV8BNA, F14, F16, FA-18C, SUPERCARRIER
EtherealN Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 18.74 LO 14.95 FC 29.99 FC2 ------------- $63.68 + FC3 $??.?? ED, please be nice to us new comers keep up the good work If a newcomer wants FC2 they need not FC1. The price of that becomes irrelevant. Also, the LO: Platinum, which is the price you used in your calculation, contains FC2 - so LO: Plat + FC2 = one copy of LO:MAC and two copies of FC2. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
StoOopiD Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 amazon.com doesnt give too much detail to as what is included with the platinum version. thanks for clarifying. $18.71 for LO+FC2. thats awesome !! sorry for "jumping the gun" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Crosshair VIII hero wifi, 3800x w/ Enermax 360 AIO cooler (push-pull), 32gigs DDR4 Ripjaws 3600, Win 10 home on a Plextor PCI-E x4 3gb/s HD, EVGA 2070 Super FTW3 ultra+, Soundblaster Z Rift S, M$FFB2, CH Pro throttle, Saitek pedals BS2, A10C, P51D, SPITFIRE, FC3, Uh-1H, F86, Mi-8MTV2, SA342, MIG21-bis, AV8BNA, F14, F16, FA-18C, SUPERCARRIER
cichlidfan Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 amazon.com doesnt give too much detail to as what is included with the platinum version. thanks for clarifying. $18.71 for LO+FC2. thats awesome !! sorry for "jumping the gun" Somewhat understandable. Keep in mind that Amazon only puts up whatever description the vendor provides and some of the 'warehouse' vendors provide very little. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
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