Migo Posted March 4, 2012 Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) I was able to run the sim as smooth as it could get with an i5 2500k @ 4.5Ghz, an overclocked GTX 570 and a Crucial M3 128Gb SSD. First you should set "1024 everyframe" to "1024". Made a huge difference in performance for me. I had everything maxed out and fps were >50 fps. A SSD helps a lot against stuttering. Edited March 4, 2012 by Migo
StrongHarm Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Brit007, I hope your tweaking is going well. Don't let the argumentative bunch deter you from asking questions here. People flex their internet muscles and argue any point possible all over the web, these boards are no exception. All in all, it's an excellent community despite this. Our little friend in this case can't be expected to give advice on your hardware, as his will require more aggressive settings. From the link in my above post: this is awesome. I thought I had a good running setup until I put these to the test...wow..much better!! Thanks! Good luck, have fun. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
Britt007 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 Hi StrongHarm, Don't worry they don't deter me, I'm open to all suggestions and arguments. I've over clocked my PC through the bios using the performance setting, I now get a lovely smooth 60 FPS. Here are some pic of my settings. Windows 7 Pro 64bit 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 memory OC @ 1648MHz i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz OC @ 4.4xxMHz Nvidia GTX 590 3GB Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Motherboard Crucial 128GB SSHD
FreeFall Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 I've over clocked my PC through the bios using the performance setting, I now get a lovely smooth 60 FPS. If you want more info about overclocking, here you are some nice links: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/39184-p67-sandy-bridge-overclocking-guide-beginners.html http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578110 http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?2453-P67-Z68-BIOS-Guide-BASIC-Intermediate-Overclocking http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?2162-Overclocking-Using-Offset-Mode-for-CPU-Core-Voltage Some of the links are originally meant for older P67 mobos, but basically there is no difference between P67 and Z68 mobos when it comes to overclocking.
StrongHarm Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Brit007, outstanding.. I'm glad your efforts are paying off! I have fun tweaking for performance until I start to see a drop in quality, then pulling back a bit to maintain my threshold for best quality. I noticed you're using medium settings for your motherboard and DCS. You might be able to stretch that. In first person shooters, I like to ensure that I get a constant 60FPS, that way when I'm in a tight spot with 20 people firing shotguns at one another in a closet, I'll see no lag at all. With DCS your tight spots are MP missions with a lot of units around cities. I personally stretch my system until DCS doesn't drop under 30FPS in those intense situations. You'll find that DCS FPS performance can't be measured by the same standards as an 1stPS, not because it's not capable, but because it's simply a different animal. For consistant testing I suggest my FPS Reference Mission. It shows you a range of loads in a quick and consistant manner, there are no variances that can throw your tests off. For your CPU and ASUS motherboard; if you want to get the most out of your hardware, consider a liquid cooling system. I personally use the H80 Corsair closed system. It's less than $100, super easy to install, and you never have to maintain it by adding water, etc. My temps never get over 45c at 4.7Ghz, even at 100% loads for hours. Also, the ASUS AI suite software allows automatic over clocking with little fuss. Your use of BIOS AsusEZ Mode will still get decent results, and a water cooling solution isn't absolutely required for the hardware you have, though. Once again, this is personal preference. You've asked the right questions and made the right moves. I think you're off to a great start in getting the most out of your system for DCS. Have fun. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
Britt007 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 PeterP, Thanks for the tip. FreeFall, I'll be taking a look at those links, cheers. StrongHarm, I agree it makes a big difference flying at 60 FPS, Ill give your reference mission a try and let you know. I'm using a Noctua NH-D14 - Processor cooler for my CPU and just checked the CPU temperature after flying DCS Warthog and it peaked at 47, I did look at the water cooler but decided to go with the Noctua cooler because I didn't think I'd be over clocking so soon :) Windows 7 Pro 64bit 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 memory OC @ 1648MHz i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz OC @ 4.4xxMHz Nvidia GTX 590 3GB Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Motherboard Crucial 128GB SSHD
FreeFall Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 I'm using a Noctua NH-D14 - Processor cooler for my CPU and just checked the CPU temperature after flying DCS Warthog and it peaked at 47, I did look at the water cooler but decided to go with the Noctua cooler because I didn't think I'd be over clocking so soon :) Your Noctua is one of the most efficient air coolers. Ideal for overclocking! I think you can easily oc to at least 4.4 Ghz (even with a bit higher voltage, if your CPU needs that to remain stable), and it will be cool enough.
badger66 Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Check this out , makes my game better . Shuts down auto starts , you can even modify it yourself . http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html
msalama Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Your Noctua is one of the most efficient air coolers. I can attest to this being true, since I'm using a Noctua and have my i7 overclocked to 4.4GHz without any problems. Regular voltages too :) The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
BTTW-DratsaB Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Brit007, I hope your tweaking is going well. Don't let the argumentative bunch deter you from asking questions here. People flex their internet muscles and argue any point possible all over the web, these boards are no exception. All in all, it's an excellent community despite this. Our little friend in this case can't be expected to give advice on your hardware, as his will require more aggressive settings. From the link in my above post: Good luck, have fun. Jeez, way to make me sound like an *****. All I did was try to stop a new player (and others who will search this thread later) trying to get some good performance getting confused and going down paths that will yield no improvement. You have to admit this is a very technical place (being a highly detailed Simulator). So I don't think you should be that surprised by some one picking you up on giving incorrect information (Physx, Sli etc) to a new player, even if it does look like your being helpful. (which you are mostly :) ) I don't argue "any point possible". I happened to have been down the same road as the OP with SLI and Physx and performance etc and I was always happy to know that when I asked for advice that I was not being given wrong info. No one will think less of you if you admit to being wrong about some thing, aren't you happy to take on new information that maybe you didn't know before? This is a great place for learning, if your willing to accept correction that is...people who don't are the kind who do cause arguments about everything in my experience. Maybe I came off as too aggressive in the way I corrected you, sorry if that is the case. Anyway, glad your running better now Britt007 and welcome to DCS. Edited March 5, 2012 by 159th_Viper Profanity Specs: GA-Z87X-UD3H, i7-4770k, 16GB, RTX2060, SB AE-5, 750watt Corsair PSU, X52, Track IR4, Win10x64. Sim Settings: Textures: ? | Scenes: ? |Water: ? | Visibility Range: ? | Heat Blur: ? | Shadows: ? | Res: 1680x1050 | Aspect: 16:10 | Monitors: 1 Screen | MSAA: ? | Tree Visibility: ? | Vsync: On | Mirrors: ? | Civ Traffic: High | Res Of Cockpit Disp: 512 | Clutter: ? | Fullscreen: On
Britt007 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) BTTW-DratsaB, Thanks for your input, if everyone had the same view it would be a boring world, I'm actually enjoying trying to optimise my system but would also like to do some flying :) I've just OC my CPU to 4.4xx but to be honest cannot see any extra FPS, I ran StrongHarms FPS Reference Mission and get 60-30 (I have Vsync on for my 60Hz TV) Edited March 5, 2012 by Britt007 Windows 7 Pro 64bit 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 memory OC @ 1648MHz i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz OC @ 4.4xxMHz Nvidia GTX 590 3GB Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Motherboard Crucial 128GB SSHD
Britt007 Posted March 6, 2012 Author Posted March 6, 2012 I've finally got my system to where I'm happy with it, one of the biggest improvements was disabling Hyper Threading, with it enabled when turning my head to look around it would jerk badly. I do have one question, I've read a lot about disabling EIST (SpeedStep) for DCS Warthog, does it really make any difference? As I don't like the thought of my CPU working at full speed when I'm only in the desktop. Windows 7 Pro 64bit 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 memory OC @ 1648MHz i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz OC @ 4.4xxMHz Nvidia GTX 590 3GB Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Motherboard Crucial 128GB SSHD
Invisibull Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I do have one question, I've read a lot about disabling EIST (SpeedStep) for DCS Warthog, does it really make any difference? As I don't like the thought of my CPU working at full speed when I'm only in the desktop. Hi Britt, I keep EIST enabled for the exact reason you've stated, and it doesn't seem to slow anything down in the sim. Try it yourself and unless it gives you a really noticeable improvement when disabled, I'd leave it active. Bull i9 9900k - GTX 2080 Ti - MSI Z87 GD65 Mobo - 64GB HyperX Predator RGB DDR4 3200MHz - Win10 64 bit - TM Warthog w FSSB R3 mod - TrackIr 5.
Wichid Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I overclock so speedstep is important for heat & otherwise my power bill would suffer. Lyndiman AMD Ryzen 3600 / RTX 2070 Super / 32G Ram / Win10 / TrackIR 5 Pro / Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
Sarge55 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I'll "third" that as well. I keep it enabled as well and do not notice a difference, she kicks into high gear as soon as DCS starts and stays there. I haven't noticed it cycling up and down causing stutters which I presume is what others are noticing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog
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