Filos Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 Does anyone on here think ED will produce 2SEAT attack/bomber in the future? like f111, tornado IDS, SU-32 and so on...
OB1 Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 I really really really hope so. It is my #1 wish. The test will be the AH-64 if and when they make it, what I would Like to see is multi-playable Pilot and CPG. Where the CPG can take controls off the Pilot for runs with the FFARs or if the Pilot is incapacitated. I have some friends eagerly awaiting for such a thing to test if and when it is released. :joystick::joystick:
Frostiken Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) I wouldn't hold my breath for AH-64. If they are going to do a two-seater, I only say F-15E being the best choice for a couple of reasons: 1) There's already a certain level of 'unclassified'ness about it, given that there's already been a pretty high-fidelity (for the time, at least) sim about it (Jane's F-15). Whereas most 'sims' back then took serious creative liberties with their material, the Janes simulation (being Janes) was fairly accurate and the sim team did get direct hands-on experience with the airframe and literature to make it. This already means that a huge obstacle has been overcome - it's a lot easier to ask for a second look than a first one. I did hear that Janes got in trouble for something they put in the sim, but couldn't get any more details about it. 2) There's an excellent level of front / back redundancy, which would greatly mitigate the challenge of making an AI that would, in other two-seaters, have to take over major tasks that simply are impossible to perform from the 'wrong' cockpit. An AH-64, for example, would require a smart AI gunner and a smart AI pilot to completely take over the cockpit you aren't in. In an F-15E, you can keep flying the jet like normal while using the pod in the backseat, so you won't have to 'fight' the AI. The AI would only have to automate the most basic tasks, and you could even control them to some degree - from the front seat, for example, you could order the AI to scan for targets with the pod. I'm not saying a two-seater wouldn't be a huge challenge, but I think it would see great results. The only real issue in my eyes would be which version of the E-model they'd get to make (I'm a little afraid we'd get a Suite 4E+ version at most, which means missing a few features I like), as well as HOTAS challenges. Hope you didn't put away your checkbook, Thrustmaster has a $400 pair of hand controllers to sell you! :) Edited March 24, 2012 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EtherealN Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 Regarding controllers, I don't see it being harder to use the TM Warthog with a DCS F-15E than, say, an x52 with DCS A-10C. You don't need exact replication to get something that functions well. (Though something that does function perfectly and with no compromises is always nicer, but I don't see much challenge here.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Frostiken Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 It's not the regular HOTAS that I'd be concerned about, but rather the actual hand controllers - dual TDCs would be nice. Also, this would require Thrustmaster to put a not-shit TDC in. The microstick on the TM Warthog is horrible to such a degree that it's unbelievable they'd put that in something that costs that much. I'm honestly considering a way to get the TDCs used in the F-15 and wring them in its place but I'd probably ruin the whole thing doing that (and I have my doubts that it would even work). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
NRG-Vampire Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 Who knows!! http://forum.lockon.ru/showpost.php?p=1377063&postcount=185
Daze Posted March 24, 2012 Posted March 24, 2012 It would be nice to see a sim that has a single seat and two seat model. For example DCS: F-18B+C or DCS F-16C+D. That way you could play with your buddy with him in the back and play campaign on your own without having to worry about the AI being stupid. It also means more variety, which is good. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] First to Fight, First to Strike.
NRG-Vampire Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 It would be nice to see a sim that has a single seat and two seat model. For example DCS: F-18B+C or DCS F-16C+D. That way you could play with your buddy with him in the back and play campaign on your own without having to worry about the AI being stupid. It also means more variety, which is good. Well said
DethInACan Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 F-14 Tomcat anyone? The carrier launches would be epic! There is so much potential for an F-14 sim, it could even include the ground attack roles aka the "bombcat".
Frostiken Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Yeah but was the Bombcat actually any good? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
DethInACan Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Yeah but was the Bombcat actually any good? I seem to remember reading an interesting article on the subject although I can't seem to find it for the life of me. :( As far as I remember, the F-14 made quite a useful bomber (especially with the range/armament advantage over the Super Hornet). The main disadvantage of the Tomcat was the cost of buying and operating them as far as I can tell. If anyone has any good information on the topic feel free to share...
MemphisBelle Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 http://forum.lockon.ru/showpost.php?p=1377063&postcount=185 WTF??? May it be that we´ll be surprised massively by the release of the next DCS Jet? BlackSharkDen | BSD Discord | DCS Tutorial Collection
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