walker450 Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 I am thinking about buying 3 24" Dell 1920x1200 IPS monitors and running them in portrait eyefinity mode. Does anyone know if DCS will run in this resolution? Also, if you are doing this, what video card(s) are you using? I would like to get by with a single 7970 if possible... Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
BHawthorne Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) I've ran 3600x1920 on both NVIDIA and AMD cards and 6000x1920 on AMD cards. The aspect ratio of 3600x1920 is pretty close to standard single display, so there'll be no real surprises with how it behaves. I liken 3600x1920 as a cheap 30" but with bezels. You get about the same experience with a 30" 2560x1600. Edited November 17, 2012 by BHawthorne
walker450 Posted November 17, 2012 Author Posted November 17, 2012 If anyone had tried it, I figured it would be you!!!!!!!!!!! Decisions decisions........... Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
walker450 Posted November 17, 2012 Author Posted November 17, 2012 I liken 3600x1920 as a cheap 30" but with bezels. You get about the same experience with a 30" 2560x1600. But the actual physical space will be closer to a 46" screen :) (with more than 3x the pixels) :) Pros: Lots of pixels, rather large display area Cons: Bezels, more complicated setup over single monitor So after all of your travels.... have you decided multiple projectors is the way to go? Have you tried 3x projectors in portrait? 3240x1920?? Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
BHawthorne Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) But the actual physical space will be closer to a 46" screen :) (with more than 3x the pixels) :) Pros: Lots of pixels, rather large display area Cons: Bezels, more complicated setup over single monitor So after all of your travels.... have you decided multiple projectors is the way to go? Have you tried 3x projectors in portrait? 3240x1920?? True, all I know is that it's a lot of height to have right in front of you on a desk. I find it novel but a bit annoying for 24/7 use. If I did it for any length of time, it would be with 20" or 22" displays. At issue with projectors any that use UHP based projector lamps don't like to be oriented in portrait mode. The thermals will either tell the projector it's overheating and auto shut down or it will actually overheat and shut down or damage it. Worse case the bulb will blow. To get around that sort of limitation you need to use a projector with low thermals. Those tend to be LED-based. Problem with LED based is they're not meant for large size projection and typically have really low lumens ratings. There are some brands out now that are called laser-LED hybrid light engines. I don't know how the laser-LED hybrid is as afar as thermals and if they are still as cool in temperature during use. If they are this might be the projector type that can push that 1920p pixel height that would be the holy grail for projection resolution for some. Just be mindful that Eyefinity 4x1P, 5x1P or 6x1P with those is awful deep pockets for an unknown. Then again someone has to be the first to try it. Someone should get a single one of those projectors, mount it in portrait mode and run it 8 hours a day for a few weeks to test it's behavior. Until then I'm a bit anxious about the concept of anyone using one like that. Edited November 17, 2012 by BHawthorne
walker450 Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 I was unaware of the potential heating problems when tilting the projectors... that stinks! Do you think a single 7970 3GB would run 3600x1920 (+bezel correction) smoothly in DCS? It will be on an i7, Z77, 16GB 1866mhz, SSD system. Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
BHawthorne Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 I was unaware of the potential heating problems when tilting the projectors... that stinks! Do you think a single 7970 3GB would run 3600x1920 (+bezel correction) smoothly in DCS? It will be on an i7, Z77, 16GB 1866mhz, SSD system. I just recently swapped a 7970 Matrix Platinum into my rig. I'll plug in three of my Samsung 245BW in the next few days to see how performance is.
walker450 Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 Perfect!! I hope the results are good!! Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
BHawthorne Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Perfect!! I hope the results are good!! I just realized that ASUS doesn't ship any adapters with the 7970 Matrix for display #3. I need to pick up a single-link active adapter from Newegg. Might be Thursday or Friday of next week before I have the adapter to test with. Edited November 18, 2012 by BHawthorne
walker450 Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 10-4. The Gigabyte 7970 I'm looking at has two mini display ports, one HDMI, and one DVI. I am planning on getting two of these: Mini DisplayPort to DisplayPort Adapter Cable and running the third monitor on DVI or HDMI That should work... right? Also... any comments on using IPS vs TN panels for portrait? Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
Kuky Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 I am planning on getting two of these: Mini DisplayPort to DisplayPort Adapter Cable and running the third monitor on DVI or HDMI That should work... right? yes that works, it's how I have my triple screens connected, you can actually use 4 monitors of standard HD7970, and even more if you get 1x miniDP to 2x DVI spliter which card will see as 1 large monitor, so you could actually have 4 monitors connected to 2x miniDP ports PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
BHawthorne Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 10-4. The Gigabyte 7970 I'm looking at has two mini display ports, one HDMI, and one DVI. I am planning on getting two of these: Mini DisplayPort to DisplayPort Adapter Cable and running the third monitor on DVI or HDMI That should work... right? Also... any comments on using IPS vs TN panels for portrait? It's important to use IPS if you're going to have a lot of portrait use. The anti-glare film they use on TN panels orients the FOV range optimized for landscape mode, while IPS panels are good both portrait and landscape. My Samsung 245BW are TN panels and they're annoying in portrait mode because of the TN portrait FOV angle issue. Which Dell IPS displays are you planning on using? That'll better help decide which method of connection you'd use with a standard 7970 port out configuration.
walker450 Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" LED LCD Monitor - 16:10 - 8 ms Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
BHawthorne Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Yep, 2 mDP-DP cables and a DVI cable to the third will work. The dual adapters Kuky talks about are handy pushing a bunch of extra displays. I have three of the DP to Two HDMI port Zotac ones. Gotta watch out how the OS sees them though, they'll see them as a pseudo 3840x1080 display not as two 1920x1080 with that adapter. That'll effect potential Eyefinity groupings with them. Edited November 18, 2012 by BHawthorne
walker450 Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 Thanks again! Do you see any advantage for me to get the AMD 7970 Matrix Platinum --over-- the Gigabyte 7970 3GB that I am looking at?? (NEW EGG -- GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB The price difference isn't all that bad 8) Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
BHawthorne Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Thanks again! Do you see any advantage for me to get the AMD 7970 Matrix Platinum --over-- the Gigabyte 7970 3GB that I am looking at?? (NEW EGG -- GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB The price difference isn't all that bad 8) Sort of depends on a few things. The Gigabyte card can only push 4 displays while the ASUS card can push 6. Gigabyte card is two-slot while the ASUS is three-slot. Slightly better GPU clock on the ASUS and a lot better memory clock on the ASUS. The ASUS Matrix Platinum is the no compromise 7970. It's the top of the line. And the oversized cooling on it makes it run cool under max load. It's overkill for most 7970 users though. I'd only humor getting it if you want the top 7970. It's a great card and I enjoy it but I don't think it's really $100 better. Edited November 18, 2012 by BHawthorne
walker450 Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 I think I'll stick with a regular 7970 :) I plan on watching the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. Here are the mdp/dp cables I would buy from monoprice: http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&cs_id=1024606 Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
walker450 Posted November 24, 2012 Author Posted November 24, 2012 I got this working with my 3 non-IPS 23" Acer S231H monitors... I removed the bezel on the middle one. Note how the right side of the screens is much darker... This is because of the poor viewing angles of TN panels. Here is a quick video I made: Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
Kuky Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Can you please do me a favor and turn mirrors on and see if you get this bug with clouds? PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
walker450 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Posted November 25, 2012 I'll do it tomorrow, I only have FC2 though. Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
BHawthorne Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Note how the right side of the screens is much darker... This is because of the poor viewing angles of TN panels. Yep, the TN panel viewing angle thing is one of those things that is hard to explain without seeing it in real life. It's not game breaking but it's a minor annoyance.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 25, 2012 ED Team Posted November 25, 2012 I use portrait x3 19" dell monitors at 2912 x 1440 I use ATI 7850 OCand have them connected via two dvi and one Display port on a ACTIVE DVI dongle. The clouds flash at me now and again but nothing I can not deal with Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
walker450 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Posted December 6, 2012 I made some heavy modifications to one of my monitors and come up with this: I'm going to use this with my new i7/7970 rig for a while and may buy three new monitors later on.... Details on my mod here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1328990/removed-bezel-on-my-acer-s231h-monitor/20 Speedpad for Inputs | My Simpit | Joystick Damper Mod
Cali Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 That looks good! This monitor companies can make a bezeless one, they are just being lazy! i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Kuky Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Hey Walker, do you get any light bleeding after you took of the metal frame? PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
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