Bushaman Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Pretty cool that this bird can fly with half the fuselage on the ground? :DDo you think that is accurate? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i5 2500k (OC 4.6 Liquid) / AsRock Z77Extreme / Gigabyte GTX 670 2GB OC / 16GB RAM / 250GB Crucial SSD / Win7 x64 / TrackIR 4 Pro (Wireless Mod) / Saitek X-45
sobek Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Do you think that is accurate? Yes, there are no critical systems in the tail. Apart from a huge COG shift and a loss of yaw stability at speed, this does not create any problems. Whether the COG shift would be too large or not i cannot tell. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
AlphaOneSix Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Yes, the CG shift would be too large. Helicopters actually have a pretty small CG range. Also, if we're talking reality...the tail doesn't just fall off, no matter how many holes you put in it. Or put another way, if an event took place that was so violent that the tail came completely off, then the rest of the aircraft would have been rendered completely unflyable in that same event.
BaD CrC Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Well, you can hit the tail on the ground during a very (too?) low altitude flight and loosing it while almost no harm is done in the front. Sure you quickly realize there is something wrong with the controls, but it does fly a bit surprisingly enough. https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden
sam777777 Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Yes, the CG shift would be too large. Helicopters actually have a pretty small CG range. Also, if we're talking reality...the tail doesn't just fall off, no matter how many holes you put in it. Or put another way, if an event took place that was so violent that the tail came completely off, then the rest of the aircraft would have been rendered completely unflyable in that same event. What DCS really needs is some soft body, or pseudo soft body, physics a la ROF. That way damage could be dealt on a more realistic basis, with airframe stresses causing the failure of more than just the part that hit the ground. <VAAF> Virtual Australian Air-Force :thumbup::joystick::pilotfly:
roob Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) It would have been a lot funnier if you saved and posted the track. http://www.twitch.tv/juclecia/b/338803011 11:00 minutes in ;) Might need to refresh for it to work... Edited November 23, 2012 by roob My DCS stream [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Past broadcasts, Highlights Currently too much to do... But watch and (maybe) learn something :)
Bushaman Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 Yes, the CG shift would be too large. Helicopters actually have a pretty small CG range. Also, if we're talking reality...the tail doesn't just fall off, no matter how many holes you put in it. Or put another way, if an event took place that was so violent that the tail came completely off, then the rest of the aircraft would have been rendered completely unflyable in that same event. All I know is that I was flying without tail for about 15 minutes until it got boring. Wish I saved the track. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i5 2500k (OC 4.6 Liquid) / AsRock Z77Extreme / Gigabyte GTX 670 2GB OC / 16GB RAM / 250GB Crucial SSD / Win7 x64 / TrackIR 4 Pro (Wireless Mod) / Saitek X-45
Jona33 Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 It's a fun game. How much damage can you take and still fly the plane. :D Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
Suchacz Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) Here you can see exactly the opposite case. Cockpit with the pilot was shot away, but the helicopter continued merrily in a stable autohover for a while. :doh: Maybe the shift wasn't too big, so the stabilizing chanels did managed it. As you can see from the screenshot, it was in BS1. In BS2 it has not happened yet to me. Edited November 26, 2012 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
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