Buddy lasing

[Rongor]

How to do that?

Of course, letting another ship do the lase and my LGB hit the spot is nothing too complicated.

But what is the right way to do? Or is there even a realistic way?

If another A-10C or a CA-player in JTAC-role lases a target, how does one get me to the right coordinates? My LGB wont drop without a proper set SPI. So how do we get my bomb drop close to the desired target, close enough to let your lasing do the guidance for my LGB?

If I can find the target by using my TGP via appropriate coordinates received by SADL-message or broadcasted SPI, I could simply lase myself, so there wouldnt be any real use for buddy lasing.

 

Imagine the CA-player in the JTAC role. I fly the A-10C a few miles away and willing to leave my idle stance. He lases a target and we have a radio connection. Now, what next?

[112th_Rossi]

Two ways:

 

1. Have JTAC give you the Lat/Long and input into CDU then slew to the location.

2. Have JTAC lase the target and use LSS mode on the TGP to locate the beam and target.

 

You will need an approximate bearing of the laser when in LSS mode so you point your TGP in its its general location. It should then lock on, you can then tweak the TGP and mark the target as SPI.

 

Buddy lasing may be useful if the laser on your TGP has failed and you need to drop an LGB.

Edited January 3, 2013 by 112th_Rossi

[Wayc00lio]

Tried buddy lasing from 2 A10s - doesn't seem to work.

[Jona33]

MP?

[112th_Rossi]

Tried buddy lasing from 2 A10s - doesn't seem to work.

 

It does work.

[Revelation]

You could do it two ways.

 

One A-10C gives coordinates of target for 2nd A-10C to drop on. 1st A-10C begins lasing target to guide munition - after munitions release. Create a Waypoint and drop via CCRP. 2nd A-10C doesn't even need to carry a targeting pod for this scenario. This is also helpful if the 2nd A-10C is flying above thick cloud cover and the 1st A-10C is flying below said cloud cover.

 

Second scenario was mentioned above where 2nd A-10C uses the targeting pod to find the laser first and then drop using LSS mode.

 

Couple of things:

Verify the laser code of the bombs.

Manually set the laser code to match.

 

For instance during pre-flight start up I manually set my laser on the bombs to 1700 and then I set my targeting pod to 1700. A second A-10C would set theirs to whatever they wanted.

[NECK]

If I can find the target by using my TGP via appropriate coordinates received by SADL-message or broadcasted SPI, I could simply lase myself, so there wouldnt be any real use for buddy lasing.

 

There might be several reasons for this:

- Your TGP could be deadeye (laser not working)

- Due to threat you have to perform evasive maneouvers immediately after release, and by having a wingman further back out of the threat envelope, he can lase, while you manouver freely, without having to think about keeping the laser on the TGT

[Jona33]

You might not be carrying a TGP at all if there's a shortage.

[Rongor]

Thanks guys, this worked perfectly!

[Wayc00lio]

We tried MP buddy lasing. I set my laser code to 1111 and the other member set their LSS to 1111. I manually lased the target and the other guy could slave their tgp to my tgt, but when we tried dropping using my laser, we kept getting NOLAS signals.

[Maverick-X]

Did you change the Lasercode of the GBU?

By default its 1688, you can change that in the inventory screen

[Corvus]

Buddy lasing either from A10 or player controlled JTAC is possible. Just switch TGP to LSRCH mode and when it spots laser hold down TMS Up long to set it up as SPI.

 

Check out this video- my friend in A10 was yelling at me to hold that laser steady:P

 

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Edited January 4, 2013 by Corvus

[Wayc00lio]

Yes, as I stated in my post. I changed my bomb code to 1111 and the other player changed their LSS code to 1111 also. No joy for us.

[Revelation]

Yes, as I stated in my post. I changed my bomb code to 1111 and the other player changed their LSS code to 1111 also. No joy for us.

 

Willie in your first post you mentioned that you changed your TGP laser code and had your buddy change his TGP laser code and slaved to your target.

 

You did not mention that you changed your GBU code. Changing the code for the GBU is done through the SMS page - not through the TGP.

 

If I'm in error at understanding your post, my apologies.

Edited January 4, 2013 by Revelation

[GGM]

It works even in from CA unit lasing for A-10 (tested) :)

[Wayc00lio]

Willie in your first post you mentioned that you changed your TGP laser code and had your buddy change his TGP laser code and slaved to your target.

 

You did not mention that you changed your GBU code. Changing the code for the GBU is done through the SMS page - not through the TGP.

 

If I'm in error at understanding your post, my apologies.

 

Yes, It was changed through the DSMS page. I meant GBU code, not laser code!

[JujuMan]

Quoted from the Manual, page 339

 

8. LSS Code (LSS), data entry OSB 17. Using the scratchpad, you may enter the laser code that will be searched for when in laser spot search (LSS) mode. The entered value can range from 1111 to 1788, but the first digit of the series must be a 1 and the last three digits must be between 1 and 8. The inputted number is displayed below the LSS OSB label. If an invalid number is inputted, an “INPUT ERROR” WCN is displayed in the center of the display.

 

9. Laser Designation Code (L), data entry OSB 18. Using the scratchpad, you may enter the laser designation code. The entered value can range from 1111 to 1788, but the first digit of the series must be a 1 and the last three digits must be between 1 and 8. The inputted number is displayed below the L OSB label. If an invalid number is inputted, an “INPUT ERROR” WCN is displayed in the center of the display.

 

Try the default 1688 code.

 

Hope it helps.

Edited January 4, 2013 by JujuMan

[Wayc00lio]

We tried the above with codes 1111, which appear to be valid. I'll have to try it again at some stage.