Raffson Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I just landed a SU-33 on the carl vinson and i don't know why but suddenly i found myself inside the carrier and shortly after i "crashed" in the water.. did i land too hard on the deck?? cos as far as i know a carrier deck and landing gear of a carrier-based aircraft are made to withstand serious punishment :p Gigabyte X470 AORUS UG Ryzen 5 2600X NVidia GTX 1070Ti 8GB Vengance RGB DDR4 32GB TrackIR5 TM HOTAS Warthog
Tasmanian Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 same with Su25T on Kuznetsov. Just spawns inside carrier.
Raffson Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 same with Su25T on Kuznetsov. Just spawns inside carrier. i didn't spawn on the carrier.. just to be clear.. i landed it on the carl vinson.. but when i touched the deck.. i fell through it.. Gigabyte X470 AORUS UG Ryzen 5 2600X NVidia GTX 1070Ti 8GB Vengance RGB DDR4 32GB TrackIR5 TM HOTAS Warthog
NRG-Vampire Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 i didn't spawn on the carrier.. just to be clear.. i landed it on the carl vinson.. but when i touched the deck.. i fell through it.. bug collision model and internal DLL bugs hopefully will be fixed in future patches
SkateZilla Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 the Su33 Data is set to land on Carrier With Ramp, not Carrier With Catapult. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Raffson Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 bug collision model and internal DLL bugs hopefully will be fixed in future patches i was already thinking something like that.. thx for comfirming my thought! Gigabyte X470 AORUS UG Ryzen 5 2600X NVidia GTX 1070Ti 8GB Vengance RGB DDR4 32GB TrackIR5 TM HOTAS Warthog
Raffson Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 the Su33 Data is set to land on Carrier With Ramp, not Carrier With Catapult. the ramp doesn't do much while landing now does it...:smilewink: Gigabyte X470 AORUS UG Ryzen 5 2600X NVidia GTX 1070Ti 8GB Vengance RGB DDR4 32GB TrackIR5 TM HOTAS Warthog
SkateZilla Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) the ramp doesn't do much while landing now does it...:smilewink: no, But the Kunetsov Carrier is Set as a "CARRIER WITH RAMP", for it's wsTYPE. The SU-33 Data is setting the SU-33 as only Landing on that RUNWAY TYPE. As the F-18 Can Land on the Vinson Fine, but fly right through the Kunetsov like it wasnt even there. same with Su25T on Kuznetsov. Just spawns inside carrier. SU25T is NOT a Carrier Capable Aircraft. IF you wanted to TakeOff or land on the Kunetsov You'd have to add the Systems and Runway Types to the Data LUA of the SU-25T. Edited January 17, 2013 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
NRG-Vampire Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 SU25T is NOT a Carrier Capable Aircraft. IF you wanted to TakeOff or land on the Kunetsov You'd have to add the Systems and Runway Types to the Data LUA of the SU-25T. i dont think so ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/HungaroJET/ModelViewer2007-09-1602-01-21-37.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/HungaroJET/ModelViewer2007-09-1602-01-13-46.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/HungaroJET/ModelViewer2007-09-1602-01-07-43.jpg
SkateZilla Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 i dont think so ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/HungaroJET/ModelViewer2007-09-1602-01-21-37.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/HungaroJET/ModelViewer2007-09-1602-01-13-46.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/HungaroJET/ModelViewer2007-09-1602-01-07-43.jpg You realise USAF Jets have tail hooks too right? to aid in landing on short airfields or to aid in stopping the jet if the brakes are InOP. the only Frogfoot that's capable of Carrier ops is the SU-25TG, which is not in DCS. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
NRG-Vampire Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 You realise USAF Jets have tail hooks too right? to aid in landing on short airfields or to aid in stopping the jet if the brakes are InOP. the only Frogfoot that's capable of Carrier ops is the SU-25TG, which is not in DCS. thats the Su-25UTG, but that model you saw came from Flanker2 and had tailhook: very old Su-39.cmd model :)
St3v3f Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I successfully landed the 33 on the CVN. It's just a matter of approach speed and vertical velocity. I think it worked best with something between 270-300 kph aka: Baron [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Alfa Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 thats the Su-25UTG, but that model you saw came from Flanker2 and had tailhook: very old Su-39.cmd model :) Yeah but it was a mistake, so it was removed from the new model :) . JJ
Couladin Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 This is a bug i encountered too. It has nothing to do with the aircraft that's attempting to land. I was trying to land F-15 on carrier, and successfully done so, apart from the lack of tailhook, which meant it kept going and took off again. But once, it acted like it snatched the cables and stopped, but it went inside the ship at sea level. Oh Eagle D whom we love, Hallowed be thy code Thy Warthogs come, Thy CAS be done On Land as it is in Sky Give us our patch And forgive our trolling. And we forgive those that troll against us Lead us not into whining But deliver us from bugs For thine is the engine, the performance, and the glory Rifle.
NRG-Vampire Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Yeah but it was a mistake, so it was removed from the new model :) . yep :) but the mistake was not to name as Su-25UTG in Flanker2 and calling it Su-39 without folding wings and doubled canopy i need a nice Su-25UTG in DCSW :D Another bug: aircrafts not moving with flight deck by pitch and roll sea states depending on windy weather :cry: Edited January 17, 2013 by NRG-Vampire
joey45 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Why... The UTG is a trainer with no weapon systems installed. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Alfa Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Well for training carrier trapping I guess :) . The AFM would make that quite interesting and as such the Su-25UTG would IMHO have been a more interesting third "Frogfoot" than the Su-25TM. However, the Su-25UTG has uprated landing gear in order to take the strain of carrier landings, so in addition to 3D model and player hook control, the AFM would also have to be modified. JJ
159_Archer Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 Couldn't see any other mentions of carrier-bugs so I'll add this here; During MP 159th GAR squad-flights, we've become aware of problems with shipping, in particular the Admrl Kuznetsov. There appears to be some some of map/in game positioning error and the AK's map symbol flickers (as do other ships in game). I'm told by our Su-33 drivers that on approach the HUD doesn't accord properly with where the AK is -meaning traps cannot be done using ILS approaches. Also, there are numerous problems with the deck when on board -sinking, exploding and the like. One other ship problem we've seen is that the damage models of some or maybe all ships is not consistent. Many low-angle attacks on shipping result in nothing more than a water-spout but no damage. Yet a high-angle attack will result in damage to that ship (with the same weapon). It seems that the damage-model doesn't recognize some hits but does others. All this means that current shipping-ops are not feasible without these things getting fixed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 159th Guards Aviation Regiment; recruiting now! http://www.159thgar.com/ We now fly all modern Jets and Helos
Axion Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) This is the kind of behaviour that Archer is talking about. Edited July 7, 2013 by Axion Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64
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