Gambit Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 wow the graphics are impressive.... too bad they spent so much time on them the FM is absolute crap. Did the devs think that they were creating a good game? It sure doesnt qualify to be a sim.... It seems rather crappy that they dumbed down the slammer and gave the Russian jets a boost.... ironic really.
23rd_Drago Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 Heard this before… so, who’s making you play it. Don’t like it, move on… plain and simple.
GGTharos Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 wow the graphics are impressive.... too bad they spent so much time on them the FM is absolute crap. Did the devs think that they were creating a good game? It sure doesnt qualify to be a sim.... It seems rather crappy that they dumbed down the slammer and gave the Russian jets a boost.... ironic really. Maybe you should qualify your remarks :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
SuperKungFu Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 More meat for the grinder. Total Idiot. Go back to whatever hole you crawed out of and play your arcade games. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Gambit Posted December 8, 2005 Author Posted December 8, 2005 I just wish they spend more time and really tried to accurately portrey the FM. If they did really try then they need to go back to WWII games.... at least IL2 was a sim.... this is nothing more than a game... comparable to to Ace Combat
Gazehound Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 I have 4 flight hours in Pacific fighters. I have taken off from a carrier, flew under a bridge twice, bombed it and landed at a land base. Felt arcady. Given that you are a flanker/mig/frogfoot/a10/eagle pilot (delete as applicable) please state how the flight models should be changed to reflect what you have experienced in real life. (note that demands for gyro torque opposite prop spin will be laughed at). VVS504 Red Hammers
Cosmonaut Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 wow the graphics are impressive.... too bad they spent so much time on them the FM is absolute crap. Did the devs think that they were creating a good game? It sure doesnt qualify to be a sim.... It seems rather crappy that they dumbed down the slammer and gave the Russian jets a boost.... ironic really. LOL ok lets play. Oh Gambit .. please tell us from where you came .. or at least tell us what other flightsims you play ;) . Cozmo. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Minimum effort, maximum satisfaction. CDDS Tutorial Version 3. | Main Screen Mods.
23rd_Drago Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 I just wish they spend more time and really tried to accurately portrey the FM. If they did really try then they need to go back to WWII games.... at least IL2 was a sim.... this is nothing more than a game... comparable to to Ace Combat ^ If you feel this way, then there's nothing we can do... is there? Perhaps GG can tell you where you can find a magic genie, to get you what you want? But, seriously… I’m sure that once you’ll spend some time in LOMAC, you’ll come to appreciate it.
Gambit Posted December 8, 2005 Author Posted December 8, 2005 arcade games? Try Allied Force. btw I completely appreciate the graphics. I wish AF had the graphics, maybe Falcon 5.0. But the realism isnt there.
GGTharos Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 I just wish they spend more time and really tried to accurately portrey the FM. If they did really try then they need to go back to WWII games.... at least IL2 was a sim.... this is nothing more than a game... comparable to to Ace Combat I know man. I have Ace Combat 5 and it rulez! Why couldn't ed make turn performance like that, which is like real planes? :confused: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Gambit Posted December 9, 2005 Author Posted December 9, 2005 just curious, how long did it take you guys to learn this game?
Cosmonaut Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 WOW How unusual ;) .. An "AF'er" saying he thinks lockon is crap. Hey you "F:er's" really put up a great argument.:cool: Cozmo. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Minimum effort, maximum satisfaction. CDDS Tutorial Version 3. | Main Screen Mods.
peterj Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 Did ED have anything to do with the development of IL2 (maddox games)? edited out rant :)
Woodstock Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 Hey Gambit, If you had taken the time to dig a li´l deeper into the game and especially into this forum you could have completely saved yourself this thread. First, people here can´t be as easily provoked as the F4 branch. We all know that neither LOMAC nor Falcon are the sims we wish we had, that the combination of the bright sides of the two would be a great evolution. It makes no sense to compare F4 to LO since they specialize in different aspects and therefore can´t be objectively judged against each other. Everyone has to determine for himself which sim´s highlights he prefers. You sound like someone who had just a very superficial look at LO and therefore by your statements you simply qualify as a troll. I´m not going to point out all the qualities of LO to you apart from the graphics since I don´t care if you discover them or not. I just hope you bought the game and didn´t judge it by it´s demo thus supporting us and ED by funding their future. Thank you, bye-bye. "For aviators like us, the sky is not the limit - it's our home!"
warthogmadman987 Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 I have no real expeirience of flying military jets I cant compare Lockon to many other jet games, or US vs. Russian avionics I realize it takes place in 1980 and not everything totally modern and i realize that gamebit doesnt know what he is talking about when he states how lockon has no good FM
GGTharos Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 just curious, how long did it take you guys to learn this game? If you could please clarify: How long did it take to push the buttons, or how long did it take to become very profficient in AA or AG combat against other players? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Pilotasso Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 just curious, how long did it take you guys to learn this game? It takes a while. You will learn that FM and missile perfomance in LOMAC is better than you think. I have played F4 for many years and while LOMAC doesnt have a dynamic campaign I learned to love the handling and the flying online.This game provides excelent dissimilar AA combat given all the planes choices. BTW you should check you stick settings because handling is greatly afected by the pitch curve (roll ones too). As for missile perfomance, it is my brutaly honest opinion no game has come even close to either the way they fly as to their seeker capability. LOMAC atempts to break the mith that they are as efective as games lead to believe. You will find here that unlike F4 missiles dont glide forever and bleed off energy in tigh turns much faster. SO if you just came form F4 youll take this as a shock that not always when you fire a missile you get an 80% kill ratio as in F4 (I think this was a major spoiler, since who let off a missile first usualy wins in F4). here you realy have to setup your attacks well. Youll aslo find that the radar is harder to master, even though the eagles radar operates much the same as the F-16's in F4 with the AA modes. .
SuperKungFu Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 this is nothing more than a game... comparable to to Ace Combat .....Is this guy freakin serious. Then he has got to be the biggest idiot on the planet. Wow...i read my shares of stupid noobs who have little clue about flight sims, but this one takes the cake. LOL. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 .....Is this guy freakin serious. Then he has got to be the biggest idiot on the planet. Wow...i read my shares of stupid noobs who have little clue about flight sims, but this one takes the cake. LOL. Be cool. He just tryed the game, and everybody is entitled to his opinion even if its a wrong one. I dont want to see these forums become a bashing fest like when some of us visit F4 forums and say something that triggers the natives inherent hostility . :icon_roll .
Woodstock Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 .....Is this guy freakin serious. Then he has got to be the biggest idiot on the planet. Wow...i read my shares of stupid noobs who have little clue about flight sims, but this one takes the cake. LOL.Calm down, buddy,:icon_jook Don´t give in to the troll, re-gain your center, cherish all the great features this guy misses...;) The milflightsim community has more important problems to concentrate on than internal flamewars. Sad as it sounds: he flies Falcon and likes sims -> he´s one of us, despite his behaviour. He´ll get the bigger picture some day... "For aviators like us, the sky is not the limit - it's our home!"
Gambit Posted December 9, 2005 Author Posted December 9, 2005 Hey Gambit, If you had taken the time to dig a li´l deeper into the game and especially into this forum you could have completely saved yourself this thread. First, people here can´t be as easily provoked as the F4 branch. We all know that neither LOMAC nor Falcon are the sims we wish we had, that the combination of the bright sides of the two would be a great evolution. It makes no sense to compare F4 to LO since they specialize in different aspects and therefore can´t be objectively judged against each other. Everyone has to determine for himself which sim´s highlights he prefers. You sound like someone who had just a very superficial look at LO and therefore by your statements you simply qualify as a troll. I´m not going to point out all the qualities of LO to you apart from the graphics since I don´t care if you discover them or not. I just hope you bought the game and didn´t judge it by it´s demo thus supporting us and ED by funding their future. Thank you, bye-bye. Ok, you stated that the combination of the bright sides of the two would be great, which is what I stated earlier. Lomac's graphics + AF's realism(campaign+FM+etc)= great sim. but then you stated that it makes no sense to compare the two, when you did it in the previous sentence.
GGTharos Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 Ok, you stated that the combination of the bright sides of the two would be great, which is what I stated earlier. Lomac's graphics + AF's realism(campaign+FM+etc)= great sim. but then you stated that it makes no sense to compare the two, when you did it in the previous sentence. I play AF. The FM behaves like it's on rails ... what exactly is your qualification to compare the FM's again? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Gazehound Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 Ok, you stated that the combination of the bright sides of the two would be great, which is what I stated earlier. Lomac's graphics + AF's realism(campaign+FM+etc)= great sim. LOMAC's graphics + FM + weapon modelling + choice of flyables + multiplayer stability (or better) AF's dynamic campaign (or better) + avionics detail = Heaven :icon_jook VVS504 Red Hammers
SuperKungFu Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 yea i just dont see why this guy is bashing on the FM. The FM is the best i had ever seen in any game (the Su-25T even has AFM). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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