Torque vs EGT?

[Teeps]

Hi,

 

I noticed today that pulling torque anywhere near the red line placed me well beyond the safe continuous EGT of 610. I assume that melting the turbine is not yet modelled, but I wondered if the relationship between torque and EGT is correct at the moment? For instance, I couldn't get climb higher than about 3,000 feet without my EGT being beyond the safe zone.

[Krebs20]

EGT and damage from excessive temps is not currently modeled. I have no idea when it will be done.

Torque vs EGT is still being worked on. The collective currently makes full power well before it should be. Some tweaks are still required.

You can over temp all day and you will be fine. No damage yet. If it gets modeled, I expect a lot of engine fires in everyone future.

[TimeKilla]

EGT and damage from excessive temps is not currently modeled. I have no idea when it will be done.

Torque vs EGT is still being worked on. The collective currently makes full power well before it should be. Some tweaks are still required.

You can over temp all day and you will be fine. No damage yet. If it gets modeled, I expect a lot of engine fires in everyone future.

 

Yup i was pushing the bird to the max for 20 minutes before knowing this waiting for something to happen hope they do model this as a'lot of peeps pushing it too hard without any come back.

 

Would be good to see little respect for the bird like the KA-50

[Krebs20]

To my knowledge, there's no damage from heat in black shark either. I run engines full throttle all the time in the shark to avoid having to crank it up for single engine emergency.

[TimeKilla]

To my knowledge, there's no damage from heat in black shark either. I run engines full throttle all the time in the shark to avoid having to crank it up for single engine emergency.

 

Nope but the shark has over-speed and the blades tend to break if not careful. :thumbup:

 

Just feels like the shark you have to be more careful with i might be wrong but I've had more wtf moments in it than the huey.

[Teeps]

To my knowledge, there's no damage from heat in black shark either. I run engines full throttle all the time in the shark to avoid having to crank it up for single engine emergency.

 

Is that with the engine limiters in? Maybe it makes no difference, but they should protect the engine from overstressing.

 

Either way I hope temperature damage makes it to the final build pidpid the Huey.

[sobek]

To my knowledge, there's no damage from heat in black shark either.

 

AFAIK that's not correct. It does degrade engine performance (ableit very slowly). You can't really seriously overtemp the shark with the governors on.

[Krebs20]

Thanks sobek, I wasn't 100% sure. Either way. It very under modeled. The Huey can turn its turbine blades to goo and out the exhaust in a few mins. IRL.

[sobek]

Thanks sobek, I wasn't 100% sure. Either way. It very under modeled. The Huey can turn its turbine blades to goo and out the exhaust in a few mins. IRL.

 

Yes, agreed of course. I was just talking about the shark. :)

[pyromaniac4002]

The Huey can turn its turbine blades to goo and out the exhaust in a few mins.

 

Well, I for one am very excited to try this when it is modeled. :P

[wess24m]

If you try that shark mission where your in a 4 ship and you have to go high over a mountain then drop in a pass you'll see engine stress. Used to happen to me every time I played that mission, just complete engine failure because of running the engine over limits.

[dahui]

Concerning the Torque thing.

Is it like in the Jetranger, that when you go from Idle to 100%RPM, that you have to make sure, not go over 40% Torque?

 

Will this be modelled?

[Teeps]

Has the relationship between EGT and torque changed yet? Things seem different now, but that might just be because we have to pull the collective further.

 

I've noticed that it's very tight to perform a hovering take off without going past the green band on the EGT dial, but I've also noticed there doesn't seem to be any penalty for exceeding EGT limits yet - although I haven't really tried to melt it yet.

[Flagrum]

"1. Engine power has not been reduced. However collective control handle “rigging” is altered to better match real collective handle settings required throughout the engine power demand envelope. This is why you are seeing higher collective requirements during takeoff, for example. The engine torque and actual rotor blade collective angles are the same (possibly slightly different as there was some tuning of dynamics as well), but the cockpit handle positioning is what is updated." (http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=113516)

[Teeps]

Yes I saw that quote, but I didn't know whether there had also been a tweak to the EGT modelling, as that was something that was recognised as not being bang on before.

 

Thanks for the reply though. :)

[Griffin]

It would bring a whole lot of confidence to Belsimtek's customers if they told us in a bit better detail what's going on. Like Yo-Yo posted in another thread the simulated power curves for the Dora. We are here sitting and guessing if our Huey flies correctly or not.

 

I miss Sundowner and his attention to detail.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114094

Edited September 19, 2013 by Griffin