npole Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Hi guys, easy question.. I go to the point without much chit-chatting: - Takeoff with head wind; - Wind from: 270 - Runways available: 09 - 27 Which runway I'll use? Thank you! :) (Please reply if you're absolutely sure of your answer.. it's not a quiz! :D ).
Jona33 Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 27 Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
GripenNG Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 You always start headwind, if possible. Same for landing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Snooze-81st-vFS
npole Posted June 2, 2013 Author Posted June 2, 2013 Thank you, so last question, why the A10C is reporting the wind "TO" and not the wind "FROM" (as per ATIS/METAR) in DCU? In example a wind 270/15 means (a wind coming from 270 at 15 kts), but the CDU is reporting it's "direction TO" (090/15) ... I see they have supposed to fix this several times (last time with the 30 april patch), but they fixed nothing?
mr_mojo97 Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 How's that then? If the wind is eastbound from 27 to 09 and you're taking off on 27 then you're taking off with tailwind? So why would you not be taking off from 09 to fly westbound into the headwind? Or have I got that wrong? MSI M5 z270 | Intel i5 7600k (OC) 4.8GHz | MSI GTX1080ti Gaming X 11Gb | 500gb Samsung 970 Evo NVME M.2 (DCS World) | 500gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD (OS and Apps) | 32Gb 2400MHz DDR4 - Crucial Ballistix | Be Quiet Silent Loop 240mm | NZXT H440 case | Thrustmaster Warthog - 47608 with Virpil Mongoose joystick base | MFG Crosswinds - 1241 | Westland Lynx collective with Bodnar X board | Pilot's seat from ZH832 Merlin | JetSeat | Oculus Rift S | Windows 10 | VA |
winz Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 When you're takeing off from rwy 27, you're taking off westbound (around 270 degrees), 09 is eastbound (around 090 degrees) ;) The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
Eddie Posted June 2, 2013 Posted June 2, 2013 Thank you, so last question, why the A10C is reporting the wind "TO" and not the wind "FROM" (as per ATIS/METAR) in DCU? In example a wind 270/15 means (a wind coming from 270 at 15 kts), but the CDU is reporting it's "direction TO" (090/15) ... I see they have supposed to fix this several times (last time with the 30 april patch), but they fixed nothing? The CDU is correct, it does indeed display wind from. It is the ME UI and singleplayer briefing that is incorrect from an aviation point of view, as it displays "wind to".
npole Posted June 2, 2013 Author Posted June 2, 2013 Thank you, I've tried with a mission setting the wind from W (in the editor you must set the direction "to") and the ATC correctly reported wind from 270, to be sure I've tried to takeoff and the aircraft went in the air after just few meters (since the strong head wind), initially I've been fooled because with no brakes, on the ground, the aircraft started to move toward the wind (!) .. i'm not sure if it's a bug in the air modeling, or if it's actually because of the wind going into the turbines. Anyway the ATC/CDU is correctly reported. :)
Flyingfrog Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 The CDU is correct, it does indeed display wind from. It is the ME UI and singleplayer briefing that is incorrect from an aviation point of view, as it displays "wind to". Hi, my friend made a mission, departure UGKO, wind 261 true 3m/s (ME 81, Briefing 81, ATC 261), but ATC tell to taxi to runway 08. Is it a bug or simply use a default partern when wind is light? Are you aware if they eventually will fix issue about wind? Thank you
Flyingfrog Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 "Winds are named from whence they came." I appreciate you help. But this wasn't my question. Thank you At 3 m/s, Kutaisi use a downwind pattern, why, is this simply a bug or below a specific wind speed all airfields use a default pattern without taking care about wind direction. The other question is only about confusion around this will be eventually fix: ATC calls are right but briefing are wrong.
boquinauer Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 It really depends on the direction AND THE INTENSITY of the wind. Airplanes have a tailwind component limitations during take offs and landings. Which also means that with light tailwinds they can achieve any take off and landing safely. Now, there are some airports, and some runways that may have a fixed configuration on landings and take offs until the tailwind component goes over a certain amount. I.E, some civilian airports keep the same runway in use, even with a tailwind component if it's 10kts or less. Madrid Barajas, for instance; or Tel Aviv... I think the real "Sochi" has an issue about that too. The reason may be the fisics of the airport, it's sorrounding terrain, or ATC issues. Anyway, talking about DCS, I'm afraid that IA ATC always uses the same runway in use regardless of the wind.
Flyingfrog Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 It really depends on the direction AND THE INTENSITY of the wind. Airplanes have a tailwind component limitations during take offs and landings. Which also means that with light tailwinds they can achieve any take off and landing safely. Now, there are some airports, and some runways that may have a fixed configuration on landings and take offs until the tailwind component goes over a certain amount. I.E, some civilian airports keep the same runway in use, even with a tailwind component if it's 10kts or less. Madrid Barajas, for instance; or Tel Aviv... I think the real "Sochi" has an issue about that too. The reason may be the fisics of the airport, it's sorrounding terrain, or ATC issues. Anyway, talking about DCS, I'm afraid that IA ATC always uses the same runway in use regardless of the wind. Thanks boquinauer. I increased wind speed at Kutasai with strong wind just to test, pattern then changed to right side runway as per wind direction. As you say, as I tested, Kutaisi, at least on DCS, Kutaisi AI use a default pattern until a specific speed of wind. Actually I don't know what the trigger speed which will change pattern but doesn't matter for now. Thanks
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