Positive & Negative 'Airfoil'

[Kalli]

Eagle Dynamics both with the DCS and FC series has made wonderful progress over the years. In particular the new basis for Worlds and the various platforms offered however there is one issue still remaining which I consider one which maybe considered by some as eye candy, however it is the barrier between static and dynamic visual effects. It is vital in closing the gap between fiction and reality and that is the Airfoil Positive and Negative 'G' effect which is absent from DCS & FC.

 

Without these visual affects the aircraft movement do not look real or lifelike at all.

 

The A10C during beta testing has some and I thought this was a good start, what happened and why was it decided to eliminate this element???

 

Would be nice to know.

 

you will see from this video that Airfoil is needed to further enhance the realism of the aircraft in high positive and negative 'G'

 

 

Have a look at any ARMA fixed wing video and you will see that they have Airfoil nicely represented. Why cant ED and DCS do this?

[Nate--IRL--]

Can you show a vid of what you mean? I don't understand.

 

Nate

[metheluckydonut]

Do you mean these?

 

 

As you can see they're being worked on.

[159th_Falcon]

Maybe he means flexing of the wings???

/clueless

[Flying Penguin]

Take a look at around 0:24 onwards for a good example of what he is talking about (I think):

 

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Game is Aerofly.

 

Alternatively (0:36 onwards):

 

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Edited August 29, 2013 by Flying Penguin

[Nate--IRL--]

But Wingflex had never been in DCS for the player AFAIK.

 

Nate

[Flying Penguin]

But Wingflex had never been in DCS for the player AFAIK.

 

Nate

 

I'm not aware of it either, but it would be on my wishlist :)

[sobek]

The BS had it from the start and the new F-18 model has arguments for it.

[Echo38]

Confused also. Arma's aircraft don't have any visual effects that DCS aircraft don't also have. Arma has less, actually.

 

Wing flex | Arma: N | DCS: N

Wingtip contrails | Arma: N | DCS: Y

Fuselage condensation vapor | Arma: N | DCS: N

Afterburner rings | Arma: N | DCS: Y

 

Et cetera ... DCS is missing quite a few of the visual effects that real aircraft experience under various conditions, particularly ones related to G-loading; however, every one of these effects that DCS is missing, is also missing in Arma, so I don't know what the O.P. is referring to.

Edited August 29, 2013 by Echo38

[sobek]

ED usually don't resort do dirty fixes. For a proper representation of vapour effects, the athmospheric model would have to be more sophisticated. Baking it in to happen at a certain g-load (or speed in case of the PG-singularity) would make it happen under some very unrealistic circumstances.

[VincentLaw]

@OP: You seem to misunderstand the definition of airfoil. An airfoil is the two-dimensional cross section of a wing. For example:

 

NACA 2412 Airfoil

 

I assume you intended to refer to wing flex or vapor effects.

[Kuky]

HEHEHE, he means wing flexing indeed :D By the way the aircraft don't make much negative G's so wing would not flex like on that Youtube video and pilots don't fly doing negative G's (minimal anyway as you can't fight the blood rushing into your head) and use positive G to fly all the time ;)

[Nate--IRL--]

BTW, any body been throwing the Su-27 around the sky lately?

 

Nate

[PeterP]

BTW, any body been throwing the Su-27 around the sky lately?

 

Nate

 

Yes.